IMDB lists a "Randy Starr" and a "Mike Armstrong" as two names I recognize in the credits. Unfortunately, I've been unable to watch any of the films in this post, in their entirety. I've only been able to find a few clips and stills. I did message briefly, with a person who had a "bit" part in this film (when he was a kid).
He remembered very little, including which location he was at, and he was EMPHATIC that he had no contact with the other actors. I'm pretty sure the porn was edited out of the film in 1972 and it was retitled "Hard Trail".
A clip of "Hard on the Trail" can be seen here (no porn). Lash LaRue is "Slade":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiWnHfc9V4g
Next up:
Next is:
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Finally, "Diamond Stud" (1969) (no poster)
Mark Turner's website said:
"according to the director, two Manson women wrestle nude in one bar scene".
Here's the kicker:
All four of these films were directed by Greg Corarito. As of yet, I haven't been able to identify a single Manson associate in any of them. (of course, I haven't seen any of them yet either). I don't know if Manson associates actually appeared in these films, or Mr. Corarito "embellished" the films by using the Manson name.
Lastly, as a warning, these films appear to be pretty explicit for anyone trying to research them.
And that's a wrap...
Thanks Sunset!
ReplyDeleteThanks Sunset!
ReplyDelete"according to the director, two Manson women wrestle nude in one bar scene".
Now that's worth paying $2.00/ticket for. NOT. HA HA.
These type movies only came to the drive-in when I was in my younger years. They were a dime a dozen. I think they were filmed in about 2 weeks total. No money spent on these type films, no acting involved, the stars were people you never heard of, nor will you ever hear of them again, unless they're cast in another worthless "B" movie and you follow that genre.
It's too bad that Shorty didn't get a break and get away from Spahn's Ranch before Charlie had him ambushed and executed.
katie8753 said..
ReplyDeleteThese type movies only came to the drive-in when I was in my younger years.
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That reminds me. When I was a teenager, back in the 70s, when I lived in Vacaville, CA, we used to drive to Davis, CA to the Westlane Drive-In Theater. It was a hardcore porn drive-in. Teenagers from all over Sacramento, Yolo and Solano counties used to show up to party there. None of us were old enough to get in so we used to park on Mace Rd and give our own loud narratives and drink beer while the movies played. The place burned down some time in the 80s. Man, those were different times......
Doc, remember? It was a $1.00 a carload back then. We would stuff in the car, 4 in the front, 4 in the back, and 4 in the trunk. LOL. All of us for a $1.00.
ReplyDeleteAnd the movie SUCKED. LOL. You'd put the putrid speaker in the window, roll it up, turn up the volume, hear a bunch of crackles, and try to hear the scratchy audio while watching video on a screen that was 500 feet away.
And then, remember when the film would break and we'd all honk our horns? HA HA.
Ahhhh, memories.....
I watched "Last House on the Left" and "I Spit on Your Grave" at the drive-in, along with The Boston Strangler with Tony Curtis.
ReplyDeleteI also watched "Fearless Vampire Killers", which was re-ignited at the drive-in when Sharon was killed.
All those movies sucked. I just remember going back and forth to the snack bar and getting stuff to eat. LOL.
katie8753 said...
ReplyDeleteAnd the movie SUCKED. LOL. You'd put the putrid speaker in the window, roll it up, turn up the volume, hear a bunch of crackles, and try to hear the scratchy audio while watching video on a screen that was 500 feet away.
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We used to bring wire cutters and steal the speakers and mount them in our $400 cars.......
HA HA. Doc, those speakers were sooo nasty! They were covered with butter and God knows what else. LOL.
ReplyDeleteI remember you'd hook that nasty thing on your window and roll it up. Back then we all had the hand roll-up windows. Then you'd turn that dirty little knob to the right to get some volume. It was like listening to a TV set in the next room. LOL
I did know kids that stole those speakers too, but instead of using wire cutters, they'd just roll the window all the way up, gun the engine and rip it out. Sometimes they took the pole down. HA HA.
Oh well,
ReplyDeleteJodi is still a guilty 3-Hole wonder. But now, she's finally wondering if she'll be in the hole for the rest of her life, however long that will be.
"George: It's gonna be a byoootiful day. I think I'll take a walk in the park. Have a nice life...SENTENCE that is...
HA HA.
G'night Jugdish! :)
katie8753 said...
ReplyDelete"George: It's gonna be a byoootiful day. I think I'll take a walk in the park. Have a nice life...SENTENCE that is...
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George can read her trial transcripts in the park. Or maybe he can get them on audio books. I don't wanna jinx George but maybe he can have some conjugal visit sex with her. Then he doesn't have to worry about the pop-in.
But Doc, remember what George said...if Jodi escapes, even better than conjugal sex...FUGITIVE Sex. LOL.
ReplyDeleteThe "break out-pop in".
ReplyDeleteFugitive sex is good, as long as it's not during a pop-in.
ReplyDeletePlus, George could get caught and go to prison. You know, having to go to the bathroom in front of a lot of people, that heavy denim, and you know what else........
Yeah, he likes Gortex....and being ensconced in velvet. LOL.
ReplyDeleteNight!!!
Oh yeah, he likes to pee in the shower. He's the urinator. HA HA.
ReplyDeleteGeorge is getting ANGRY!
ReplyDeleteBobby and Gypsy were in the western iirc. Bobby played some Indian without front teeth and Gypsy some squaw who got raped.
ReplyDeleteOr am I thinking of another grade z western shot at the ranch? Ramrod? Maybe a different flick.
ReplyDeleteThanx for the post Lynyrd and thanx for the comments.
ReplyDeleteI noticed several comments about drive ins. When I was a kid, me and several other kids stole a speaker, dug a ditch and laid a wire down to behind the fence, and sneaked down there at nights and watched the films from behind the fence with our own speaker, some nights we even had beer. Later, I was projectionist at that drive in.
I checked my obscure torrent site. Hard on the Trail is not listed. Wanda the Sadistic Hypnotist is listed but there are no seeds so that one won't work. The Fab Bastard from Chicago has 6 seeds, I could probably download that one. Diamond Stud only has one seed, I'm trying to download that one as I write this, I'm up to 1.7%, it may take days, weeks or months.
Here is the description of that torrent: (language warning)
"The choo-choo train nudie!
You’ve heard of T&A? Diamond Stud, an ambitious, big-budget, epic-wannabe set in the early 1900s, is the world’s first T&T movie: a film about trains & tits.
Rotund "two-bit chiseling son of a bitch" Diamond Jim loves riding the rails on his own personal locomotive. Sporting a derby and smoking a big fat cigar, he rides inside the train, on the back of the train, on the front of the train, and even stands atop the cowcatcher (!) as it chugs triumphantly across America.
Along the way, we flash back to his love affair with Sara, his best friend JOHN ALDERMAN’s love affair with every skirt that crosses his path, and Jim’s sleazeball brother Patrick, who abuses his church-going wife until she flashes her boobs at his mamma and cries rape.
Shot in 1969, this was one of many independent films shot at the old Spahn Movie Ranch which was also home to Charles Manson and his gang (prior to the killing of Sharon Tate on August 9, 1969). According to an interview with director GREG CORARITO in Cult Movies, the catfight in the bar between two bare-ass babes was played by two of Charlie’s girls: "We got the Manson girls wrestling naked. And Manson was like in the background but we never messed with him. He was just always in the shadows. I never even said ’hello’ to him." Wise move, Greg.
Also starring MICHAEL GREER (of The Gay Deceivers), the 1906 San Francisco earthquake, an endless barroom brawl between a bunch of thugs and legendary pugilist John L. Sullivan (played by a dead ringer for the heavyweight champ), and enough shots of trains and train tracks to last you a fuckin’ lifetime. (Is there some bizarre Casey Jones fetish no one told us about? Distributed by DAVID F. FRIEDMAN.
And did we mention that goddamn train?
Transferred from a 35mm steam-belchin’ print.
--Handsome Harry Archer"
This is the same site where I downloaded "The Ramrodder". Catherine "Gypsy" Share and Bobby "Cupid" Beausoliel are clearly visible with speaking parts in that one. Gypsy played the role of "Cochina", BB played the role of "Mogu", a knife wielding Indian.
The first two and a half minutes of this vid will always bring back memories for me, I remember when I ran this film at the Drive In.
ReplyDeleteI can still smell the popcorn, 5 cents a box, you could smell it for miles.
Thanks for the link to Drive In Sunset. Boy that brings back memories to me too.
ReplyDeleteI took driving lessons in 1969 and our instructor made us go to the drive in and practice driving around those speaker poles and try not to hit any of them. That drive in got torn down in the 70's to build a K-Mart. Sigh....
Mrstormsurge, yes, you're thnking of a film called "Ramrodder."
ReplyDeleteMy only drive-in memory is of seeing a film starring Bob Hope, Phyllis Diller and Elke Sommer. I can't think of the name of it now, but Elke was always in a bubble bath in the movie.
ReplyDeleteOxbow won The Preakness, so there won't be a Triple Crown Winner this year....
ReplyDeletewent to plenty of drive-ins as a kid down here in Florida. Hell, on a hot night you'd break out a lawn chair and sit outside the car. Saw plenty of awful jap godzilla movies that i begged my pop to take me to ... and being the great dad he was he did.
ReplyDeleteof course, they played double features with an intermission btw the flicks. Who the hell nowadays goes to see two movies the same night?
ReplyDeleteMrstormsurge said...
ReplyDeleteof course, they played double features with an intermission btw the flicks. Who the hell nowadays goes to see two movies the same night?
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Man, the last double feature that I can remember was "Frogs" with a very young Sam Elliot and "Giant Spider Invasion". I saw them at the Jerry Louis Cinema at Westborough Square on Westborough BLVD in South San Francisco, CA. That had to be around 1975 or so. I'm Surprised that Frogs never made it to horror/cult status. Very badly made movie with a huge star......
Stormy! Drive ins were an important part of Americana back in the 50's & 60's. At that time, they were just as important as the walk in theaters. In fact, they offered more to the movie viewer. First of all, they were cheaper. A $1.00 a carload. Secondly, you didn't have to pay a babysitter. Just stuff the kids in the car, or in the truck bed, bring them along, let them play on the swings and playground toys, then at dusk when the movie starts, put them in the back with some pillows, feed them popcorn, pizza and cotton candy, and then let them zonk out.
ReplyDeleteI can remember years ago when you could see the tail lights of cars backed up for a mile trying to get into the drive in, trying to get a "sweet spot" near the screen. LOL.
I think it wasn't really until George Lucas came up with THX sound in the walk in theater with Star Wars that the drive ins really met their demise. They couldn't compete.
Double Feature?? When I was a projectionist I sat through the same 2 movies for 7 straight nights. Often the films would be "held over" for 2 or 3 weeks. On weekends I often ran a Triple Feature. I seen my share of bugs, zombies, frogs, gas pump girls, corvette summer, 10 year old Elvis Presley films etc.
ReplyDeleteAfter the movies were over I got to go pick up the hot dog wrappers off the field along with other unsavory items I won't describe. When I finished I got wasted, it was often daylight or 9 am before I got to bed. The show must go on.
The good news is "Diamond Stud" (1969) finished downloading from a torrent. I can't wait to see me some Manson girls wrasslin'
Would one of the "unsavory" items also be called a "Coney Island whitefish"?
ReplyDeleteI ended up with one on the floorboard of my car when I parked at Jiffy Park......
Sunset said: The good news is "Diamond Stud" (1969) finished downloading from a torrent. I can't wait to see me some Manson girls wrasslin'
ReplyDeleteI think I'd rather watch paint peel or watch a boil get lanced or watch a fly lay maggots.
But..."to each, his own". LOL.
G'Night Jugdish! :)
ReplyDeleteG'Night John Boy........
ReplyDeleteI finished watching "Diamond Stud" (1969), as I suspected, there is no obvious connection to the Manson family in that film. There is a bar fight where 2 women wrestle around naked on the floor, one is a large blonde woman, IMDB lists a "Dorthea Cristie" as "Blonde Catfight Girl" the other is a dark haired girl I don't recognize.
ReplyDeleteMy personal opinion is Charles Manson was never anywhere near the production of that film, nor were any of his associates. There was one very tiny scene filmed of a man in a horse and buggy with 2 other men on horses, that could have been Spahn, but I think that's probably unlikely as well.
While the "extended" Manson family may have been 200 members or more, I didn't recognize Manson, any of his girls, or Spahn Ranch anywhere in that film.
Bruins win second straight...
ReplyDeleteYEAH!
Prokes, Leary... you following the series?
Well, the 3-Hole Wonder is supposed to testify to the jury tomorrow.
ReplyDeleteWhat will she say? What can she say?
She told the world last Wednesday that she wants to die. So she's gonna tell them tomorrow she wants to live? Another lie from her stinking mouth.
It will be interesting to see what happens.
You know, she should have just stuck with the "Ninja story", instead of confessing that she killed him.
But she's not as smart as she thinks.....stay tuned.
Mr. P, are you mad at me?
ReplyDeleteOh well, it is what it is.
G'Night Jugdish! :)
yup, a great game to watch Lynyrd. Three rookie D playing and they still thumped em. Amazing really. It'll be fun to see what the MSG crowd can do to change the tone.
ReplyDeleteI hope they keep Krug and Bartkowski in,maybe sit Hamilton for Seidenberg when the time comes.
ReplyDeleteIf We can split in New York we'll be in a very good position.
Just don't forget NY was down 2-0 in their last series.
katie8753 said...Mr. P, are you mad at me?
ReplyDeleteHas He been here since that dustup You Guys had a few weeks back?
I saw parts of todays and yesterdays games. The first time I've watched hockey in years. I enjoyed it even though I'm just learning the game. Action packed sport. I dig it. My A's swept KC today.....
ReplyDeleteMr. P., I miss your comments...I hope you come back...
ReplyDeleteWell, 3-Hole's rather large Baby Huey attorney, Kirk Nurmi, got up today and demanded (for the 3rd time) a mistrial because the prosecutor is mean.
ReplyDeleteThe judge said no.
Baby Huey then demanded that he and his fellow defense attorney be released from defending this harpy because "it's not fair".
The judge said no.
Then Huey stomped his foot and threw a cosmic fit and declared that there would be no mitigating defense witnesses.
The judge said "ohhhh-kkkaaaay".
Tomorrow, 3-Hole is supposed to get on the stand and talk to the jury and judge. I think she will jump on her Magic Carpet Ride, blaming this whole thing on Travis and anyone else she can think of, then begging for the death penalty, claiming that when she's dead, her ashes can fly around the world and do good things...or some stupid shit like that.
katie8753 said.
ReplyDeleteI think she will jump on her Magic Carpet Ride, blaming this whole thing on Travis and anyone else she can think of, then begging for the death penalty, claiming that when she's dead, her ashes can fly around the world and do good things...or some stupid shit like that.
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Eloquent.... I dig it!
Maybe the ashes will end up on Dalrymple's Green Peace boat.
Doc, HA HA.
ReplyDeleteI've often thought that 3-Hole was born too late. She would have fit right in on Charlie's black bus. She is the perfect killing machine. Better than Tex, Pat, Susan or Leslie combined. She kills without remorse or compunction. She would have been Charlie's Ace in the "Hole" (no pun intended).
Plus she would have been a big hit at the Family's orgies, with all her holes and such. LOL.
I'm glad you liked what I had to say Katie. Now, I'm going to have big salad for dinner and watch my A's beat up on the Texas Rangers......
ReplyDeleteThanks Doc. I think I'll have my Chocolate Babka.
ReplyDeleteI hope the Rangers win, but yada...yada...yada...
LOL.
I was gonna have marble rye with my big salad but I couldn't get my fishing reel to work. Maybe I'll have to settle for Beef a Reeno.......
ReplyDeleteHA HA.
ReplyDeleteWell for my entree I was going to have some Mulligatawny. But on second thought, I think I'll just have some good ole Mutton.
"Salad's got nuttin' on this mutton." LOL.
Well my heart goes out to the victims of OKC's tornado today. I have friends there that I'm still trying to contact. I hope they are okay.
ReplyDeletePeace out!!!
G'Night Jugdish! :)
Sad day today...
ReplyDeleteRay Manzarek has died.
"The Doors"... one of my all-time favorite bands.