I have a copy of this photo printed from the negative. It's fabulous. I'd alwsys seen the cropped one (like this one) and absolutely love the full view where they're holding hands. They were such a cute couple and their body language in photos says a lot about their relationship.
I don't have a Valentine so I'm wishing a happy day to those who do!
"This video is definitely going to bring Venus and Carol out! LOL" - Lynyrd
How right you are! Thanks, Lynyrd and katie. Great video. Love that it opens with that great picture of Sharon and Jay. Venus is right - their body language says a lot about their relationship. They were soul mates. That's my story and I'm sticking to it! Happy Valentine's Day, everyone.
I don't hate Roman, I just don't see his appeal. Jay was attractive, had a great smile, a cute tush (I'm a sucker for a great tushie!!!!) and seemed to be such a caring guy. What's not to love??
Lynyrd, I replied to your e-mail!
I guess Katie, Carol and I are the core members of the Jay fan club. :-)
>>>Venus said: I guess Katie, Carol and I are the core members of the Jay fan club. :-)>>>
Yes that's true. I've never seen what it is that Sharon saw in Roman.
In the pics with Jay, she seems really relaxed and happy. In the pics with Roman, it's a forced happiness. Sometimes she's not smiling at all, and other times she's smiling with her mouth...not her eyes.
I hate to admit it, but I think it was a monetary choice for her. Jay was in debt and Roman was an up and coming director.
Bad choice for Sharon.
My favorite video is the one shot at Jay's house (love that house too!!!). She really seems happy then.
I know that Doris & Paul Tate were still close to Jay even after Sharon married Roman. That speaks VOLUMES for Jay.
I really wish I knew how Doris & Paul felt about Roman. I can't imagine Doris, being Doris, would even tolerate Roman. I'm sure Sharon revealed his affairs to her mother.
Being a mother myself, I'd probably want to hit him on the head with a frying pan. LOL.
Katie, I'd love to see proof that Jay was in debt. If you've noticed, most of those stories came from Roman. He was the one who talked about Jay and S&M too. I'm not saying that they aren't true, just that I'm considering the source. They interviewed many women after Jay's death and none of them had any complaints. LOL
I do agree with you about the way Sharon looked in photos with both men. My pet peeve about photos of her and Roman is that in the majority of them (9 out of 10), she's either sitting or he's on a step so he'll look taller. How petty. She just looked more content with Jay, it was like she knew he loved her for herself, she didn't have to impress him.
Doris and Paul clearly loved Jay. Doris trained in his salon to learn how to cut hair his way, that says a LOT. And Paul probably appreciated the factt that Jay had been in the military. Paul and Jay were going to meet for a meal on Sat, Aug. 9th.
Venus, I believe that in the police report it mentions that Sebring International was struggling. I'd have to look that up. I know that Roman said some things about Jay's finances, and in essence, tried to blame Jay for the murders. Which really twisted my shorts!!!
I've seen Doris on a You Tube clip (I can't find it anymore...I think it was on Bret's site) and she SAID that Sharon had confided in her that when the baby was born, she was going to divorce Roman. She had just found out about his affair with Michelle Phillips right before her murder. It was the last straw.
I can't imagine that Doris had any affection for Roman at all.
I've always suspected that Roman was behind the murders at Cielo Drive.
How convenient it was that he wasn't there yet.
Sharon was having his baby...was going to divorce him...and he would have had to pay not only child support but alimony under California law.
It's funny...but I was thinking today about Scott Peterson and how he killed his pregnant wife because he didn't want to be saddled with a family when he was so "hot to trot". So he killed his pregnant wife.
Roman was in the same situation.
Venus & Carol, we talked about doing a thread on this.....let's do it!!!
>>>Venus said: Doris and Paul clearly loved Jay. Doris trained in his salon to learn how to cut hair his way, that says a LOT. And Paul probably appreciated the factt that Jay had been in the military.>>>
Yes Venus I agree. They were clearly ga-ga for Jay, and he for them in return.
I've had boyfriends in the past that I knew were really interested in me because even after the breakup, they came by to see my mother.
Same with Jay. I think he kept in contact because he really thought that he had a chance with Sharon.
The night of August 8th in Sharon's bedroom, I'd give dollars to doughtnuts that Sharon was telling Jay that she was leaving Roman. And he felt confident that he could step in and get her back.
Katie, can we "meet" online tomorrow at about 6 pm central time and chat via e-mail about this new thread idea? I'll alert Carol about it too. Talk to you then!
To answer your question, look to the citizenship of the person(s) marrying. If they were citizens of the UK, then British law would be the governing jurisdiction. If they were U.S. citizens, even though they were married abroad, the marital law of the state in which they reside would govern. the U.S. and the U.K. have a reciprical recognition in recognizing marriage. Put another way, if they had divorced, California courts would have had jurisdiction.
As for Roman having anything to do with the murders - I don't think so. The husband is always the first suspect for police, but didn't Roman pass a lie detector test?
roman is a turd remember he was partying while his wife and child were being murdered and jay died trying to protect her. bill nelson, doris tate, and colonel tate though did visit with polanski in paris on victim rights tour in europe and they seemed thrilled to see him. nelson of course recorded it and then tried to sell it to collectors.
>>>Beauders said: bill nelson, doris tate, and colonel tate though did visit with polanski in paris on victim rights tour in europe and they seemed thrilled to see him. nelson of course recorded it and then tried to sell it to collectors.>>>
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"What the BLOGS... need now... is Love... Sweet Love...
That's... the only thing... that there's just... too little of"...
AHahahahaha LMAO
Happy Valentine's Day, everyone.
I have a copy of this photo printed from the negative. It's fabulous. I'd alwsys seen the cropped one (like this one) and absolutely love the full view where they're holding hands. They were such a cute couple and their body language in photos says a lot about their relationship.
I don't have a Valentine so I'm wishing a happy day to those who do!
I JUST said to Katie...
This video is definitely going to bring Venus and Carol out! LOL
Like mice to cheese...
AHahahaha
I'll be your valentine Venus!
; )
mmmmm, Venus loooooves cheese! LOLOL
Ok, Lynyrd, let's be Valentines. I'm single and ready to mingle! LOL
Wait....this is a video???? I thought it was just a photo....
Ok, that was a cute video.....I have one too. Check your e-mail in a little bit, Lynyrd. I have to find it first!
Hi Venus!! Happy Valentine's Day everyone!!! :)
"Oh Happy Day...Oh Happy Day..."
Starship, that song's from the Secretariat soundtrack.
D'OOHHH!! Another secret revealed. HA HA HA.
"This video is definitely going to bring Venus and Carol out! LOL" - Lynyrd
How right you are! Thanks, Lynyrd and katie. Great video. Love that it opens with that great picture of Sharon and Jay. Venus is right - their body language says a lot about their relationship. They were soul mates. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
Happy Valentine's Day, everyone.
Carol, you should have said, "That's OUR story and WE'RE sticking to it." LOL
Hi Venus.
I sent you an email, in reply...
You're right, Venus, that is OUR story!
Hi Carol! Happy Valentine's Day.
I agree, Sharon looks much happier with Jay than with Roman, in my opinion.
Or maybe it's because I like Jay and not Roman. LOL.
"Or maybe it's because I like Jay and not Roman. LOL." - katie
You and me both! (And Venus - that makes three.)
I don't hate Roman, I just don't see his appeal. Jay was attractive, had a great smile, a cute tush (I'm a sucker for a great tushie!!!!) and seemed to be such a caring guy. What's not to love??
Lynyrd, I replied to your e-mail!
I guess Katie, Carol and I are the core members of the Jay fan club. :-)
>>>Venus said: I guess Katie, Carol and I are the core members of the Jay fan club. :-)>>>
Yes that's true. I've never seen what it is that Sharon saw in Roman.
In the pics with Jay, she seems really relaxed and happy. In the pics with Roman, it's a forced happiness. Sometimes she's not smiling at all, and other times she's smiling with her mouth...not her eyes.
I hate to admit it, but I think it was a monetary choice for her. Jay was in debt and Roman was an up and coming director.
Bad choice for Sharon.
My favorite video is the one shot at Jay's house (love that house too!!!). She really seems happy then.
I know that Doris & Paul Tate were still close to Jay even after Sharon married Roman. That speaks VOLUMES for Jay.
I really wish I knew how Doris & Paul felt about Roman. I can't imagine Doris, being Doris, would even tolerate Roman. I'm sure Sharon revealed his affairs to her mother.
Being a mother myself, I'd probably want to hit him on the head with a frying pan. LOL.
Katie, I'd love to see proof that Jay was in debt. If you've noticed, most of those stories came from Roman. He was the one who talked about Jay and S&M too. I'm not saying that they aren't true, just that I'm considering the source. They interviewed many women after Jay's death and none of them had any complaints. LOL
I do agree with you about the way Sharon looked in photos with both men. My pet peeve about photos of her and Roman is that in the majority of them (9 out of 10), she's either sitting or he's on a step so he'll look taller. How petty. She just looked more content with Jay, it was like she knew he loved her for herself, she didn't have to impress him.
Doris and Paul clearly loved Jay. Doris trained in his salon to learn how to cut hair his way, that says a LOT. And Paul probably appreciated the factt that Jay had been in the military. Paul and Jay were going to meet for a meal on Sat, Aug. 9th.
Venus, I believe that in the police report it mentions that Sebring International was struggling. I'd have to look that up. I know that Roman said some things about Jay's finances, and in essence, tried to blame Jay for the murders. Which really twisted my shorts!!!
I've seen Doris on a You Tube clip (I can't find it anymore...I think it was on Bret's site) and she SAID that Sharon had confided in her that when the baby was born, she was going to divorce Roman. She had just found out about his affair with Michelle Phillips right before her murder. It was the last straw.
I can't imagine that Doris had any affection for Roman at all.
I've always suspected that Roman was behind the murders at Cielo Drive.
How convenient it was that he wasn't there yet.
Sharon was having his baby...was going to divorce him...and he would have had to pay not only child support but alimony under California law.
It's funny...but I was thinking today about Scott Peterson and how he killed his pregnant wife because he didn't want to be saddled with a family when he was so "hot to trot". So he killed his pregnant wife.
Roman was in the same situation.
Venus & Carol, we talked about doing a thread on this.....let's do it!!!
Mr. Dill...legal question.
If you're married in England, but reside in California, is divorce governed by English law or California law?
Roman & Sharon didn't own property in California or England, only rented. Does that matter?
>>>Venus said: Doris and Paul clearly loved Jay. Doris trained in his salon to learn how to cut hair his way, that says a LOT. And Paul probably appreciated the factt that Jay had been in the military.>>>
Yes Venus I agree. They were clearly ga-ga for Jay, and he for them in return.
I've had boyfriends in the past that I knew were really interested in me because even after the breakup, they came by to see my mother.
Same with Jay. I think he kept in contact because he really thought that he had a chance with Sharon.
The night of August 8th in Sharon's bedroom, I'd give dollars to doughtnuts that Sharon was telling Jay that she was leaving Roman. And he felt confident that he could step in and get her back.
Katie, can we "meet" online tomorrow at about 6 pm central time and chat via e-mail about this new thread idea? I'll alert Carol about it too. Talk to you then!
Venus, I'm there. 6pm central time.
Tommorrow!!! 2/15/12....HA HA HA.
Katie,
To answer your question, look to the citizenship of the person(s) marrying. If they were citizens of the UK, then British law would be the governing jurisdiction. If they were U.S. citizens, even though they were married abroad, the marital law of the state in which they reside would govern. the U.S. and the U.K. have a reciprical recognition in recognizing marriage. Put another way, if they had divorced, California courts would have had jurisdiction.
Thanks Mr. Dill!!!
I'm not sure what citizenship Roman touted, but I'll bet it's not UK. I don't think Sharon lived there long enough to be a citizen of the UK.
So if NEITHER had citizenship in the UK, then I'm assuming that California would have jurisdiction in a divorce.
Unless Roman had citizenship in Poland. Which would raise a whole nother question. That is....if...
But if neither had citizenship in the UK, how could they marry? Questions??? LOL.
The Col's back.......
I hope he's okay......
Venus I'll e-mail you tomorrow. Let's hook up at 6 central time. You & Carol & me. LOL.
I wish we had real time instant messaging. That would kick ass!!! HA HA.
Venus and katie - 6 p.m. CST sounds good!
As for Roman having anything to do with the murders - I don't think so. The husband is always the first suspect for police, but didn't Roman pass a lie detector test?
roman is a turd remember he was partying while his wife and child were being murdered and jay died trying to protect her.
bill nelson, doris tate, and colonel tate though did visit with polanski in paris on victim rights tour in europe and they seemed thrilled to see him. nelson of course recorded it and then tried to sell it to collectors.
>>>Beauders said: bill nelson, doris tate, and colonel tate though did visit with polanski in paris on victim rights tour in europe and they seemed thrilled to see him. nelson of course recorded it and then tried to sell it to collectors.>>>
Beauders, is this still available somewhere???
i have a copy in storage maybe aes-nihil has a copy.
Thanks Beauders!
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