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Sounds like Bullshit to me...
The author doesn't state any official sources for this information. He also doesn't give the names of the folks he's quoting (throughout the article). He skirts this by saying things like... "according to the press rep"... and "she said". Based on that, and the photo of the author himself (LOL)... I seriously doubt the legitimacy of this information... but, at any rate, check this out! LOL
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/8246811/charles_manson_to_receive_star_on_hollywood.html?cat=2
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196 comments:
Nice! Lynyrd you rock!
Who's the girl in #3?
The girl in #3 is Casey Anthony, who would like to try and be a mother again.
I'm sorry. That isn't really funny. But hide your kids! She lose!
Love the decor. Looks like an engine motor and broken screen door in the kitchen. I guess that's a kitchen in #1, it has a stove.
Also love the blood red paint. Nice touch. LOL.
That would be a good place for Casey Anthony. I've said before, she'd fit into the Manson family just fine. No qualms about killing there!!!
Love that broken down chair and couch. I've seen better furniture in a junk yard.
I can't imagine any girl wanting to live in a place like that.
I'd have taken one look at that dump and ran screaming into the night. LOL.
I don't know who that girl is Kimchi.
Does anyone know if these pictures were taken after the family was arrested. Didn't Spahn's Ranch burn down in the 70's?
cool pictures
I wonder what our girl is doing on her first night of freedom? We never got to see Susie, Leslie, or Katie free.....
Are they nutjobs for life? Or was it just a little mix up that they can grow out of?
Now they're obsessing on the girl in Pic # 3 comparing her to Casey Anthony.
I'm very happy to say I haven't followed any of that case.
The law set her free, it is what it is, now live with it.
It's not up to you to pass judgement.
If she is guilty of what she was allegedly charged with ..... nobody escapes karma.
I can see that i'm just wasting my time looking through audios for Tex Watson material.
Casey Anthony is the new Susan Atkins.
Now, back to sports and weather.
Adios dummies.
Tom, I've said before, if such a travesty since the likes of OJ Simpson has yet again occurred, I've finally decided that Pat & Leslie should be free.
Are they nutjobs for life?
I think that Pat Krenwinkle was screwed up big time by Charlie, and after the years, she has shown true remorse. I think that the only reason she hasn't been released was because she did actually do some gruesome things in these murders. But I don't think she's dangerous now.
Leslie? I think she's a sociopath who has never felt remorse, who has only used men to get out, who never really felt she did anything wrong, who has always blamed Charlie for everything.
Now...is Leslie dangerous? The only reason I don't think so is because she's too old to be. She's be in so long, I sincerely doubt that if she did get out, she'd do anything to jeopardize her freedom. I think she's that smart.
Casey Anthony is much more dangerous than either of these women. And that's a fact. Casey is still young enough to kill people and her first victim was only 2 years old. The next victim might be a boyfriend that pisses her off.
What's she doing now? She's only thinking about herself. It's only me, me, me with this bitch.
She didn't get punished like Pat & Leslie. Makes a BIG difference. She knows there aren't consequences for her actions. She's learned that. The legal system works for her. She's laughing all the way to the bank.
There is only one Susan Atkins. And there will never be another.
Jimmy I was just going to answer you.
>>>To answer Katie - I'm not saying that Tex was behind LaBianca. I don't believe that's the case here but Tex was the guy who carried out the deed, but someone had to handle Nader on his behalf and that's where Manson took the others on a ride.>>>
Okay, you say that Tex was "championing Linda" at the Tate house because of a "drug burn", or whatever event occurred.
Let's look back. A month before, in July 1969, Tex left his "then" girlfriend at Bernard Crowe's place and when she was threatened, he said "I'm outta here. I'll catch y'all on the back side".
But suddenly, in August of 1969, he was ready to "kill for his woman".
I find that ludicrous.
If Tex was so enamored with Linda and willing to kill for her, why didn't he kill Charlie? Linda claims that she was "scared to death" of him.
Can you explain that one?
This lean, mean, killing machine that would kill anyone in the world who hurt "Linda", should have killed Charlie. Because she was afraid of him.
(foot tapping..............)
Hello Folks.
I'd like to enlarge the photos, when I get a chance... but alas, I'm currently not home... I'm on a piece of shit laptop computer.
Please "Click" each photo, for the best viewing experience.
The aerial photo is really great blown-up!!!
Peace... Lynyrd
Tom, I compared Susan to Casey Anthony because of the constant lies that came/comes out of both their mouths.
Susan could tell some whoppers. Same as Casey. Only difference is, Casey still does, and Susan doesn't talk anymore.
katie8753 said...
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Okay, you say that Tex was "championing Linda" at the Tate house because of a "drug burn", or whatever event occurred.
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YES - That is exactly what i'm saying and that is the truth.
>>>
Let's look back. A month before, in July 1969, Tex left his "then" girlfriend at Bernard Crowe's place and when she was threatened, he said "I'm outta here. I'll catch y'all on the back side".
But suddenly, in August of 1969, he was ready to "kill for his woman".
I find that ludicrous.
<<<<
What this shows is that Tex was off doing his own thing, with Linda and with Susan.
Linda's own testimony shows that she was very into Tex Watson sexually. There was an emotional and physical bond.
Hence ..... Salindar Nader.
>>>
If Tex was so enamored with Linda and willing to kill for her, why didn't he kill Charlie? Linda claims that she was "scared to death" of him.
Can you explain that one?
<<<<
Come on, that's a ridiculous question that has nothing to do with anything. That could apply to any member of the group who claimed to be "Afraid" of Manson.
What i've been trying to get people to do is to take a close look at Nader and ask yourself WHY anyone would want this guy dead and, more importantly, on the very same night as the LaBianca murders.
There's enough evidence here to make the connection that Watson and Kasabian were emotionally and sexually Involved.
That brings us to Frykowski, Kasabian, Nader. - ALL of these, including Bernard Crowe spawned from TEX WATSON.
I will say that OVER and OVER again because that's what it is.
The Larry King interview also showed Linda having fond thoughts about Tex Watson and even smiling when Larry mentioned his name. Buglisoi was also there holding his own bayonette to Linda's back just to make sure that she doesn't sing off key.
Do you understand what i'm saying?
It's all there, in the open and it proves what even TJ had told to Bill Nelson about TEX being the one who did the Tate killings as well as the drug burn on Bernard Crowe and TJ, as far as im concerend, is a reputable witness.
That's where you look.
Once you see that, this whole case takes on a different view.
Okay Jimmy, you say Tex was in charge...right?
Then why didn't HE order Charlie to stay at the LaBianca's and kill, shower, eat cheese and drink chocolate milk, whilst TEX drove off with Linda, Clem & Sadie to off Nader???
If Tex was in charge, why didn't HE order Charlie around???
Your reasoning doesn't make any sense.
Now if you can come up with something that MAKES SENSE....I might be more inclined to listen. :)
And please don't say..."no sense makes sense". That's been done to death!!
Actually, the best possible viewing experience, is with a beer in your right had, popcorn in your left, and a hot chick in your lap...
But hey, I'm just a blog administrator, not a magician. : )
Jim... thanks for the audio links.
I'll give them a listen, when I have the chance.
Peace...
katie8753 said...
>>>Okay Jimmy, you say Tex was in charge...right?<<<
No, i never said "Tex was in charge".
LaBianca was a seperate event but Watson was a part of that.
Tex ran his own drug operation which involved Susan and Linda and possibly Larry Bailey. It was a tight little click and it was independant of Charles Manson's oversight.
As i've said before, there was absolutely no intention of Linda Kasabian participating in LaBianca because they had her picked out for another destination that night - Nader.
LaBianca, by itself, was a planned event because it was coordinated and the execution of that event depended upon the LaBianca's returing from Lake Isabella.
Detach LaBianca from Tate and examine things along the lines of Hinman, Crowe, Tate, and Nader and you'll get a much clearer picture on who did what and what each person's role was including Manson's.
TJ also knew that Watson was beind Crowe and Tate and so do I.
>>Jimmy said (when I asked why Tex didn't kill Charlie for Linda)
Come on, that's a ridiculous question that has nothing to do with anything.>>>
Ah montrer. I disagree. Why is that ridiculous??? Why does that have nothing to do with anything??
If you say that TEX was IN CHARGE, that means he's IN CHARGE of Charlie.
Does it not???
Because if that's not what you mean, then all your theories to exonerate Charlie are null and void.
Because you're whole assumation was that Charlie wasn't in charge...TEX WAS.
So...if you are saying that Tex Watson was running the show, that the murders were all HIS idea, that Charlie never had control...then it's a valid point.
So....is that what you're saying???? That Tex was in charge?
>>>Jimmy said: As i've said before, there was absolutely no intention of Linda Kasabian participating in LaBianca because they had her picked out for another destination that night - Nader.>>>
And who is "THEY"?????
Hmm....
You did say before that Tex was running the show. Now you say he wasn't.
You can't have it both ways!!!
It's one or the other.
He can't run the show sometimes, and sometimes he doesn't.
That doesn't make sense.
katie8753 said...
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Ah montrer. I disagree. Why is that ridiculous??? Why does that have nothing to do with anything??
If you say that TEX was IN CHARGE, that means he's IN CHARGE of Charlie.
Does it not???
<<<<
I said that Tex was running his own drug enterprise that was independant of Manson's oversight. We KNOW this to be factual.
Bernard Crowe is PROOF that Charles Manson was not aware of Tex Watson's "Business". In fact, it was TJ who answered the phone at Spahn Ranch where an angry Lottsapoppa asked for "Charlie" - TJ thought he meant MANSON because TJ knew Watson as "TEX".
That how Manson got involved in the Bernard Crowe incident to begin with. This was something that TJ told Geraldo Rivera, with Bill Nelson in attendance, but, like You, Geraldo went into his little song and dance routine and tried to discredit TJ.
The trend is there for all to see and Watson was very much his own man before the murders took place.
If you link Watson and Kasbian together, the fog of war begins to lift.
There's more than enough information out there to confirm this.
katie8753 said...
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And who is "THEY"?????
<<<
Watson to handle LaBianca while Manson takes a few others to handle Nader.
Mind you that Manson wasn't going to get his hands dirty. As with Tate, that was someone else's mess.
LaBianca had to happen first because it was a time-triggered event. That was the primary objective and it was also a coordinated event.
The killers would be completely alone with their victims, they could eat, shower, pick out something nice to wear, paint the walls red with blood, do some mutilations and leave when they were all freshened up.
They didn't seem to have any fear of discovery.
Break LaBianca off of Tate and treat it as a seperate event.
These are 2 unrelated events linked together by hype.
Katie8753 said ....
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Leslie? I think she's a sociopath who has never felt remorse, who has only used men to get out, who never really felt she did anything wrong, who has always blamed Charlie for everything.
<<<<
Used Men? That's so Bohemian of you. It makes a person feel dirty inside.
As Shakespere says, "The fault lies not in our stars but in ourselves".
>>>
Casey Anthony is much more dangerous than either of these women. And that's a fact. Casey is still young enough to kill people and her first victim was only 2 years old. The next victim might be a boyfriend that pisses her off.
<<<<
In my opinion, Casey Anthony has an excellent future as a FEMA Camp Commandant.
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What's she doing now? She's only thinking about herself. It's only me, me, me with this bitch.
<<<<
That's funny, where i have heard this before?
Okay Jimmy I hear you....but you still don't make sense.
If I know one thing about men, it's that they all have egos.
There can't be 2 men in charge.
You can't say Charlie was in charge of most things, and Tex was in charge of drugs.
Either..or...was in charge of both.
You say Tate was all about Tex.
Then why did all the girls testify that Charlie said "go with Tex and do what Tex says".
That in itself shows Charlie was in charge of of the girls and TEX.
If Tex was so in love with Linda, why did he yell at her to MOVE OVER so he could drive away from Tate?
If Tate was just a "revenge killing" because of some drug burn about Linda...why kill Parent and Sharon???
Jimmy....clarify something for me...
Are you saying Tex was in charge of the family....or was Charlie in charge of the family???
That's what I'm confused on what you're saying.
Because as far as I know, Charlie never lost control.
During the trials, Tex was way off in Texas, not saying anything.
Charlie made the orders.
Charlie is the one who carved an "X" in his forehead.
The others followed suit.
Charlie is the one who shaved his head.
the others followed suit.
Charlie is the one who ordered them to threaten people.
Charlie is the one who jumped on the judge.
Charlie is the one who threatened the lives of Bugliosi, the judge and others.
Not Tex.
Tex never did any of that.
So.....tell me who was/is/always will be in charge......
Well Jimmy, I know of your love for Leslie, and I can't help thinking that you think that Tex felt the same love. I told you befoer that she's a user.
An unrequited love. A love that can't be touched.
That love never existed between Linda & Tex. So they had a good "horizontal mamba". So what.
Jesus how many times has that cunt had sex???? She's spit out at least 4 kids?
She wasn't in love with Tex.
I don't care how many tapes you come up with.
I don't believe anything that comes out of:
Linda's mouth.
Tex's mouth.
Charlie's mouth.
Leslie's mouth.
Susan's mouth.
That about sums it up.
Jim...
I saw TJ speak regarding the Crowe incident, during the "family re-union" show, which Geraldo aired.
TJ spoke right at the end of one of the segments... it's actually right on the blog here somewhere.
I believe it was MattP, who alerted us to the footage quite some time ago.
I agree it was quite revealing, and yes... Geraldo did make a joke of it... and quickly changed the subject.
BUT... TJ never spoke regarding Tate... not at length anyway... unless I missed that part.
Jim said:
>>>>"I can see that i'm just wasting my time looking through audios for Tex Watson material.
Casey Anthony is the new Susan Atkins.
Now, back to sports and weather.
Adios dummies".<<<<
Jim, calling people dummies, was un-necessary.
You just posted the audio footage earlier today.
I haven't even been home all day... maybe others haven't either.
Moreover... Casey Anthony has been a steady topic here for a while...one which Katie has perpetuated... and, although I myself, have also completely tired of the topic... it's not necessary to call folks dummies.
Tom's defnitely not a trouble-maker, and has a right to make a joke, and initiate conversation... whether it's a topic either of us is personally interested in, or not.
Tom may not have even read the previous thread.
Some folks don't visit every day... and read every comment.
Tone it down a few notches... it's all cool cats in here.
Well... it has been, until recently when Poirot morphed into someone I don't recognize.
katie8753 said...
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If I know one thing about men, it's that they all have egos.
<<<<
They lived as "One". Being "One" involved letting your ego die so there was none of that present there.
>>>>
There can't be 2 men in charge.
You can't say Charlie was in charge of most things, and Tex was in charge of drugs.
Either..or...was in charge of both.
<<<<
There was nobody officialy "In Charge" of anything.
People there at the ranch looked up to Charlie and even TJ said the very same thing. If anything he was more like a big brother to them.
He played guitar, sang, and tried to get his music published and his message out. He almost accomplihed that all on his own and through his connection to Dennis Wilson.
>>>>
You say Tate was all about Tex.
<<<<
Yes, i certainly do.
>>>>
Then why did all the girls testify that Charlie said "go with Tex and do what Tex says".<<<<
Because Watson told Manson what happened with Frykowski and that "HE" (Being Tex) was going to settle it.
Keep in mind that Beausoleil had already fucked up on his issue with Hinman and Charlie didn't want to get involved with that.
This ties directly into what Manson told Geraldo when Susan came back and told him what happened up there. It was quite obvious that Manson was not pleased about what went down.
I've already gotten into the house and how it was handled and how there was almost nothing written in blood there. It's not at all like what previously happened at Hinman where the intent was to blame the black panthers.
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If Tate was just a "revenge killing" because of some drug burn about Linda...why kill Parent and Sharon???<<<
Why kill Marina Habe?
Why wasn't the Guest House searched? This goes into the role of Mr Garretson which is still not fully known.
When Tex went up to that house and did the deed, there was alot of anger in those attacks. It was brutal. The overkill tactics on Frykowski and Folger alone are enough to indicate that this was "Personal" in nature.
This ties into the Jeanne Mallett testimony where she was asked the question:"Was he (Referring to Tex) kind of aggressive" and her reply was "Yes".
This is quite contrary to the "Happy go Lucky" image that Barbara Hoyt tried to paint about Tex Watson.
Tex only brought those people with him who had a close personal association with Linda Kasabian.
There was plenty of room in that car for more people but i honestly believe that Tex was expecting light resistance as indicated by the small amout of rope he used and the fact that his murder companions were female.
>>>>Because as far as I know, Charlie never lost control.<<<<
That's not true. People were coming and going and the need to get to the desert was more imperative.
>>>
During the trials, Tex was way off in Texas, not saying anything.<<<
That's right. So all the media had to focus on was Manson and the girls and Susan's Grand Jury Testimony that was mysteriously leaked to the press.
Tex Watson became the invisible man.
katie8753 said...
>>>
Charlie made the orders.
Charlie is the one who carved an "X" in his forehead.
The others followed suit.
Charlie is the one who shaved his head.
the others followed suit.
Charlie is the one who ordered them to threaten people.
<<<<
This was during the trials and it was a show of SOLIDARITY on everyone's part to stand with Manson. The trial was complete horseshit. People were threatened to lie by the DA and all kinds of sleezy deals were made to get people to testify.
MANSON was the target. Justice came 2nd.
TEX WATSON WAS NOT EVEN THERE !
WTF !!
The trial was a JOKE and it wasn't taken seriously by anybody.
Judge Olders daughter went to school with Patricia Kreninkel - Nobody said boo about that.
It was all about getting a conviction of Charles Manson for the murder of Sharon Tate - nevermind if Tex isn't around.
What a crock of shit.
Can you blame these family members for backing Charlie in DEFIANCE of this ridiculous court proceeding?
They stood together, in good times and in bad, and they did what they had to do to call attention to this charade of a trial.
You have to jump off of doing what Bugliosi had done in blaming Manson for everything.
You can't blame Manson and excuse Tex Watson.
Tex Watson's actions, starting with Bernard Crowe, clearly shows that this cat was off and running and Manson literally walked into this one and actually ended up saving that girls life. She would have surely been raped and killed had Manson not gone there to clean up Tex's mess.
This is where the real story starts.
Jimmy, I could argue with you for the rest of my life, and not get anywhere with you.
For some reason, you have altered the truth. I'm not sure what happened to you. I hope it's not a bad thing.
Anyway, "good luck". HA HA.
And if you ever come back to earth and try to argue some valid points instead of imaginery stuff, let me know.
Jim.
It seems you're the topic of Liz's most recent thread. I mean literally.
When Charlie morphed the X in his forehead into a swastika NONE of the others follwed suit. This is where Charlie began to lose his control.
The pic on the wall behind the supposed casey is of a young Trotsky from an old movie.
Interesting Poirot.
Do you know the name of the movie?
You can tell that hippies were painting the house. The wild contrast in colors was symptomatic of the hippie generation. Actually I miss that part of their fad.
Speaking of the 60's:
I can't believe women were willing to have sex in that kinda disgusting environment... with no pre-cursor date at all! LOL
Now THAT'S a 60's "fad" that's gone... and never coming back!
Maybe for the better...
LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...
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Jim, calling people dummies, was un-necessary.<<<
Fair enough .. i'll retract that statement.
>>>>
Tom's defnitely not a trouble-maker, and has a right to make a joke, and initiate conversation... whether it's a topic either of us is personally interested in, or not.<<<
Maybe so, but that Phillies cap is like waving a red sheet at a bull.
LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...
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Jim.
It seems you're the topic of Liz's most recent thread. I mean literally.<<<<
I never go there. Is it good or bad?
katie8753 said...
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For some reason, you have altered the truth. I'm not sure what happened to you. I hope it's not a bad thing.<<<
Bugliosi altered the truth - not me. I'm trying simply to focus you on where you need to be looking.
>>>>>
And if you ever come back to earth and try to argue some valid points instead of imaginery stuff, let me know.<<<<
Earth is a pretty shitty place these days. It's just as well that mankind is at the end of the ride.
The problem with you katie is that you see only what you want to see. You're locked into Helter Skelter as if it were the holy grail.
To each his own. I'm simply saying that if you examine Nader close enough, you'll see the bigger picture.
The actions of the Bernard Crowe incident speak for themselves.
You look at it as Manson having shot a black drug dealer.
I view it as Manson getting involved in something that he had NOTHING to do with and basically saving a girls life in the process.
I'm sorry, but that's just how it is.
Mr LS,
Do you know what year these were taken.
Pics 2 n 6 both seem to be part of a jail with the bars. Also same carpet and wallpaper.
Any additional info would be greatly
appreciated.
Jim asked:
>>>>"I never go there. Is it good or bad"?<<<<
Well... Let's just say, if you don't go there, it's probably best for you, and them.
I doubt anything positive is gonna come from it.
That's my two cents... regarding a situation, that doesn't involve me.
katie8753 said...
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Well Jimmy, I know of your love for Leslie, and I can't help thinking that you think that Tex felt the same love. I told you befoer that she's a user.<<<<
You're takling about 2 unrelated items.
I showed you a piece of testimony that PROVES that Linda kasabian was infatuated with Tex Watson from a sexual and perhaps emotional standpoint and you refuse to accept it.
Listen, that's fine. You don't have to accept it, but it's there. It's a documented FACT.
>>>
An unrequited love. A love that can't be touched.<<<
I have no idea where you're coming from with this.
>>>>
That love never existed between Linda & Tex. So they had a good "horizontal mamba". So what.<<<
How do you know that for sure?
To this day, Linda Kasabian won't speak badly about Tex as shown on Larry King,
Back in the day, she sure had feelings for the guy.
>>>>>
Jesus how many times has that cunt had sex???? She's spit out at least 4 kids?
She wasn't in love with Tex.<<<<
Love, Infatuation ... it's all the same thing.
As Deborah Frazier had said, murder is sometimes caused by a crime of passion.
>>>
I don't care how many tapes you come up with.
<<<<
I shouldnt have to come up with anything. It should be quite obvious that there's something there.
All i can is, based on my own perception, is that people are very locked into theor own vision of what happened and are reluctant to view things from a different angle.
If you're blaming Manson for everything, then i'm just totally wasting my time here. Seriously.
Not that it really matters now, 41 or 42 years later. i really could give a rats ass about rewriting history.
I just want Mr Watson to get the long overdue attention that he so richly deserves.
That's MY motive for stiring up the mud here.
I told you how Tex was behaving prior to the murders and you keep inisting that Manson is in charge when Watson was clearly off doing his own thing. I can't help you there if you hold onto Manson as the root cause.
Skynyd, i like your blog. Your members are a swell bunch of people but i've grown tired of swimming upstream.
It's not worth my time to try and make people open their eyes and look at the details a little closer.
I wanted people to focus on Watson and on Kasabian because that's where the real foundation of this horror is.
Listen, that's my 2 cents.
The books keep coming but the bullshit never ends.
I go with what TJ told to Bill Nelson because TJ makes a hell of alot of sense and he knew Manson up close and personal.
If you can't acknowledge the mindset of Tex Watson at the time of the murders, then you're dropping the ball.
Tex was running his own little drug operation at that time. He wasn't selling wigs anymore. He was moving up in the world.
What can you do?
All i can say is that it's been a fun little visit but i still you think you guys are way out in left field by just outright rejecting the Watson/Kasabian connection.
Nader was no fluke. All the guy did was have sex with Linda so that really narrows down the playing field.
I'll see if i can find wonder woman's golden lariot on Ebay. It may come in handy one day.
LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...
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Well... Let's just say, if you don't go there, it's probably best for you, and them. <<<<
They can say whatever they want to. I could care less. It won't change anything on my end.
The sun will rise, John Waters will still be an asshole that cashed in a good friend and i'll just keep making money while the economy and the country goes to hell.
Doesn't phase me skynyrd. Not one bit.
Hey Wharf Rat!!!!
Great to see you again!
So glad you came back brother!!
Wow... you're very observant.
Photos 2 and 6, do indeed, look like the same exact room, in different stages of "remodeling".
They both have the same wallpaper and carpet... and yes, the bars on the right wall, are essentially being "walled-in" (covered), in the sixth photo.
I wasn't home all day today... and I just wanted to get the photos up on the blog.
But, I'm going to be doing some digging in the coming days, regarding these photos... and, I'll definitely get back to you, with any further information.
In the meanwhile, if anyone else has information... please contribute.
Kimchi is usually very good with this stuff.
Great seeing you Wharf Rat!
Stop in more often brother!
Peace... Lynyrd
By the way... Katie:
You owe my friend Wharf Rat an apology from way back.
I spoke to you about the incident.
Wharf is a good egg, and a cool cat!
"remodeling"
And the chick must be the interior designer. If only those mattresses
could talk. Besides the STD's they hold, they could probably tell us everything we want to know about the murders!
Glad to be welcomed back!
Peace to you to Katie as well as Mr. Lynyrd Skynyrd
Jim said:
>>>>"They can say whatever they want to. I could care less. It won't change anything on my end.
The sun will rise, John Waters will still be an asshole that cashed in a good friend and i'll just keep making money while the economy and the country goes to hell.
Doesn't phase me skynyrd. Not one bit".<<<<
LOLOL
You gotta love a guy, that just doesn't give a shit. : )
"Blog Business". AHahahaha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WzyxybYEGM
Wharf Rat said:
>>>>"And the chick must be the interior designer. If only those mattresses
could talk. Besides the STD's they hold, they could probably tell us everything we want to know about the murders"!<<<<
AHahahaha
"Murders solved by mattress".
LOLOL
That girl better find a different photo, to advertise her "interior design" service!
AHahahaha
I hope to hell, that's the BEFORE picture!!
The perpetrators and the victims all knew each other in one way or another. This was not random killings. There are much sense in what Hippie Scholar says.
I don´t think Manson was behind the murders. That HELTER SKELTER thing was a smokescreen and that smokescreen was the only way to tie Manson to the deeds.
Anyway here is a small clip when Manson confess he had met Sharon Tate before. He claims he met her at Dennis Wilson´s place and also at Elvis place. If Manson was around then it´s not so far- fetched assuming he had some of his friends with him; but Manson don´t snitch.
Manson and his friends was often invited to partys with Hollywood celebrities. But of course after the murders not many wold admit that. Neil Young was one of the few that confessed he had been together with Manson. Manson also did audition for Young who thought he had talent.
Allegedly Neil Young also gave Manson a motorcycle; but I don´t know that for sure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4hbzRFOH38&feature=related
LS,
Those had to be the after pics.
Not much one can do with the bars.
Maybe a San Q gas chamber sequence.
I do not remember seeing some of these life pics. If everyone has,
sorry but I always find looking back at pics of the family puts myself back reading "the family" when i was was 12ish.
Just reminds me how young most of them were to be so fucked up.
http://www.life.com/gallery/30702/image/3438618#index/0
wharf rat said...>>>>>
And the chick must be the interior designer. If only those mattresses
could talk. Besides the STD's they hold, they could probably tell us everything we want to know about the murders!>>>>>
So true! That's how i feel about the rocks on the slope directly across the road...in the upper left quarter of the Spahn photo, to the right of the left telephone pole...the rock slope with the v shape in the center of it....if only those rocks could talk and tell us what happened just before the old Ford rolled out of there on the night of August 8, 1969.
Unlike nearly everything else on that side of the road, they're unchanged from 1969 and haven't been disturbed.
We always see the same aerial photo of Spahn from across the front, so this is an unusual view and great blown up a bit. Thank you.
How about that lovely trailer. Wonder if that's the trailer where Sadie watched tv news reports of the slaughter at Cielo on Saturday morning.
my first instinct says that is kitty lutesinger in the picture but with big hair.
Marliese said...
How about that lovely trailer. Wonder if that's the trailer where Sadie watched tv news reports of the slaughter at Cielo on Saturday morning.
mr poroit replies:
the tv trailer was next to Georges house. Dunno if that is taken from inside the tv trailer. The Family did have access to tv and news. they weren't cut off from the world as is sometimes claimed. They were very aware of current events. They were atypical from most cults.
Jimmy, it seems to me that there is a growing group of people pushing this theory that Tex was in charge of everything. I know it's probably rooted in the desire to get Charlie out of prison.
Personally, I don't know what he'd do if he got out. I guess he could collect social security and get medicaire, as long as that lasts. He's at the age now where he's gonna need more and more care in his final days.
Anyway...I just don't buy this picture of Charlie as the little "Oliver-type" and Tex as the "evil Mr. Fagan".
I don't subscribe to the Helter Skelter motive. I've said that before.
That being said, I'm not going to keep arguing with you.
Have a nice day!
Hi Wharf Rat. I do apologize for my former tirade. It stemmed from "misconfusion" on my part. LOL.
Glad you're back. Love your comments!!
>>>Lynyrd said: I can't believe women were willing to have sex in that kinda disgusting environment... with no pre-cursor date at all! LOL>>>
Boy isn't that the truth. That's totally disgusting.
>>>Mr. P said: You can tell that hippies were painting the house. The wild contrast in colors was symptomatic of the hippie generation. Actually I miss that part of their fad.>>>
Boy, it's a good thing old man Spahn couldn't see. He'd probably crap his pants if he saw what color they painted his ranch houses!! HA HA.
Hey Lynyrd, where is the picture that had the stove in it?
In the aerial photo, I can't find the trailers. Are they in that photo?
>>>V717 said: Anyway here is a small clip when Manson confess he had met Sharon Tate before. He claims he met her at Dennis Wilson´s place and also at Elvis place.>>>
I don't believe Manson knew Sharon Tate. Period.
As far as I know, Elvis lived in Tennessee. When he was out west, he was in Vegas. Don't remember Charlie hanging out in Vegas much.
This just keeps getting better and better. Next we'll hear that Manson was hanging with the Kennedys at Hyannis Port, or dancing with Princess Grace in Monaco.
Now that guy gets around. HA HA.
Elvis had a house in Los Angeles...bought in the early '60s when he was making movies. Priscilla lived in it also. If Charlie says he was there, i think he's telling tales.
Katie said:
>>>>"Hey Lynyrd, where is the picture that had the stove in it".<<<<
SHIT!
I DID miss one didn't I ?!!
DOE!
Man... you folks are WAY more observant than I am.
Good thing!!
Katie... I'll have your new stove from Sears delivered in just a minute!
AHahahaha
There ya go...
Just Delivered! LOL
I wanted to get red (to match the decor) but they were all out. : )
Hey... white matches anything... even feces. LOLOL
Oh thanks Marliese. I didn't realize Elvis had a house in LA.
I don't recall anything about him knowing Manson though. I have my doubts too. :)
Aahhhh thanks Lynyrd. Now I can make my famous spagetti. HA HA.
I think...I could be wrong....that there were 2 pictures of the trailer. ???
I love the picture of the "living area" that has no furniture except that nasty green chair on wheels with the hose next to it.
Errrrr....I'm not even gonna ask why it's on wheels. HA HA.
What's that contraption to the left of the stove?
An industrial vaccuum? LOL
I think that's car parts in the very corner??
Lynyrd I don't know what that gizmo is. There appears to be a screen door leaning to the far left. This must have been the room where all the "junk" went.
Well....come to think of it, did they have anything that wasn't junk?? HA HA.
I posted earlier that Charlie could probably collect Social Security. I don't even know if he could do that. You have to work and pay in to get any back, and other than a few odd jobs, he's never worked in his life.
Oh well....I guess it's back to stealing cars and gathering children. LOLOL.
Don't sweat it Bob.
It's a public blog, and everyone is welcome.
I really don't care what someone's opinion, history, sexual preference, religion, race, gender, fantasies, mental state, or thoughts regarding Manson are...
As long as folks don't blatantly insult others, for no apparent cause... I'm good.
As I told one person via e-mail:
It's a public blog, and I can't control who visits, or what they post... nor would I want to.
When you get into "comment moderation", and "private blog" stuff... it always sucks.
Who wants to post a comment... and wait 2 hours for the administrator to "approve" it?
Your comment posts 2 hours after you write it.
It sucks.
Folks like to blog in "real time".
Besides... I don't need that kinda work.
Hopefully, if everyone can stay 'cool"... it won't come to that.
Also... I haven't had to ask anyone to leave yet... and, that's preferrable.
I don't want to be "the bad guy".
Folks... let's all just exercise common courtesy, regardless of who walks through the door.
As I always say:
"If I only allowed the folks here, whom I agree with 100% of the time... I'd be here alone"! LOLOL
(Funny, but true)
Thanks... Lynyrd
PS... I'm not addressing you specifically Bob... just talking in general terms.
katie 8753 said
Next we'll hear that Manson was hanging with the Kennedys at Hyannis Port, or dancing with Princess Grace in Monaco.
Katie, You have a sense of humour, I appreciate that.
>>>V717 said: Katie, You have a sense of humour, I appreciate that.>>>
I'm glad you do V717. If we can't laugh and find humor in things, we might as well just stop living. :)
MrPoirot said...>>>>
Marliese said...
How about that lovely trailer. Wonder if that's the trailer where Sadie watched tv news reports of the slaughter at Cielo on Saturday morning.
mr poroit replies:
the tv trailer was next to Georges house. Dunno if that is taken from inside the tv trailer. The Family did have access to tv and news. they weren't cut off from the world as is sometimes claimed. They were very aware of current events. They were atypical from most cults.<<<<
Hi, i'm not sure what you mean by inside. I was referring to the fifth photo...the travel trailer.
Now that you say the tv trailer was next to George's house, there does appear to be a trailer next to George's house...in the spahn photo enlarged. So the travel trailer in this photo just may have been the trailer next to George's house and may be where Sadie watched the news.
And where Hoyt watched tv also.
Love original photos. Thanks again for these.
katie8753 said...
>>>V717 said: Katie, You have a sense of humour, I appreciate that.>>>
I'm glad you do V717. If we can't laugh and find humor in things, we might as well just stop living. :)<<<<<
Same here...i really, truly, sincerely :) appreciate your sense of humor Katie.
>>>Marliese said: Same here...i really, truly, sincerely :) appreciate your sense of humor Katie.>>>
Thanks Marliese!! I do my best!!
Marliese, I can't make out a trailer in the aerial photo of Spahn's. Can you tell me where you're seeing the trailer next to George's house? That could be very well where she heard the news reports on Cielo Drive the next morning.
Katie said?|>>>>Marliese, I can't make out a trailer in the aerial photo of Spahn's. Can you tell me where you're seeing the trailer next to George's house? That could be very well where she heard the news reports on Cielo Drive the next morning. <<<<<<
Hi Katie, blow up the aerial of the ranch and go to the phone pole in the upper left...just beneath there is what looks like a trailer...it's next to the house, and there's a car parked in front of it. Do you see it?
Thanks Marliese. Now I see it. I never would have made that out if you hadn't pointed it out. I wasn't sure where George stayed.
Thanks!!!
Bobby, you are true-blue and one of the nicest bloggers I have had the honor to "blog" with!!!
I hope to have many more conversations with you! :)
Hi Bob.
My previous thread was not directed at you... other than the part where I said "don't sweat it Bob".
You've never proven yourself to be a troublemaker, so, I'm really not sure what this is all about.
Whoa, these are nice photos...
Okay if nobody is talking about the case I'm getting back to the big "C". And I mean a four letter word that starts with a "C" and ends with a "T". HA HA.
Well, Casey's attorney offered the Anthony's, Casey's parents, to be a "decoy" on her escape.
They quickly refused. Of all the nerve. Well...I guess her parents were good for something. To be a shield if someone started shooting.
You know, OJ got acquitted. We all knew he was guilty. But the defense shot holes in all the prosecution's theories and ended up with the biggest mess of all.
And OJ ended up, like Karma suggests, back in prison for good.
Because people who think they "got away with it" will do anything they want. They think they're "above the law".
Now if you wanna talk about Robert Blake...that's a different story.
His wife was a USER and a LOSER. She had scammed many men before she married Robert (don't know why he even married her) and then had a kid with him to "seal the deal". If he ever booted her, she could get child support.
Bonnie Lee Blakely. That woman wasn't worth killing. Read up on her if you haven't.
I don't know if Robert Blake did it or not, but I do know that there were 100's of people who would have liked to. There was a long line of people.
Back to Casey...
Like so many have pointed out...if Bugliosi had prosecuted her, she'd been given the death penalty.
Mr. Bugliosi! Where were you when we needed you????
If Jess Ashton had only prosecuted the Manson Family trial, they would have all been found "not guilty" and would be living the high life by now.
Double Jeapordy. You can blab all you want, and nobody can do anything about it.
Charlie would be a billionare by now....with all of his mutterings and scat do-be-doo-yahs.
But....Charlie was stuck with a Deputy DA that knew how to work it.
I guess it's the toss of the coin...
Baby-killers get convicted in 1972.
Baby-killers go free in 2011.
Maybe Charlie lived before his time.
Or maybe Charlie should get with Casey and find out how it's really done!!! Remember Charlie...no remorse....none at all.
HA HA HA.
Great photos, Lynyrd...i remember living sparsely in my punk rock days but not like that...those photos make my skin crawl....can just imagine the filth and bugs in that place.
Sorry Bob...
I meant:
My previous COMMENT/POST was not directed at you... other than the part where I said "don't sweat it Bob".
I said my previous "thread"... sorry.
Well, the poor Manson Family.
And poor Sadie.
If only she'd know to say she was molested, and that's why she lies out her ass...it would have been acceptable in the juror's eyes.
She did say she was molested, but not as a defense in court.
Wow....
Think about it.
You can do anything you want to, including murder, but must mention your Daddy molested you and you get off.
They should have all said that.
They were all molested.
They would have got off scott free. HOO HOOO.
Marliese said:
Elvis had a house in Los Angeles...bought in the early '60s when he was making movies. Priscilla lived in it also. If Charlie says he was there, i think he's telling tales.
I´m not so sure about that. He could very well been at Evis place at a party;that dosen´t mean necessarily that Elvis was home.
I think Manson is more truthful than you would expect from a jailbird. Manson dosen´t have to lie or brag about his involvement with the rich and famous because he is not really interested in that kind of life. It was those kind of people that wanted to have Manson at their homes and partys. It was fashionable in those days to be together with an outlaw. Dennis Wilson of the Beach Boys is a typical exampel of that. But Manson in the end rejected that kind of lifestyle.
Manson: "I don´t trye to go up town and be something fancy, I can, but I find more truth in the world that I live in than the tinsel."
bobby said...
>>>
once again, I apologise to Jim for calling him an idiot. I felt i was sticking up for Lynyrd at the time. I will let my short blog history speak for itself as far as how i treated people.
<<<<
It's okay Bob. It's No big deal. Trust me when i tell you that i've been called much worse, but it's all water off a duck's back.
Skynyrd is used to my insanity, but he's had years of exposure and he'll probably never be the same again :-)
Same with Tom. As a life long Mets fan, that Phillies cap send shockwaves through my eye sockets.
It's all good here. As it should be.
Just like in hockey, no matter how intense things get around here, at the end of game, i'll shake your hand at center ice.
Be well folks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34v1
hyfHXdQ
Well, there are certain people on this blog that say you can't "say things".
Well, as far as I know, this is the United States of America.
And as such...you can kill your child and get away with it...
If Casey Anthony can kill her kid and get away with it...I can say dyke and get away with it.
AND...you can say anything you want on this blog and get away with it.
I'm tearing down the curtain of tyranny.
You can say anything fucking thing you want on this blog, and any whinny ass fucker that doesn't like it can suck a light socket!
I'm sick and tired of every Tom, Dick and Harry coming out of the woodwork saying "oh, you can't say this, or that, because it offends me."
JESUS. What is this??? the AFCLU???
FUCK THIS!!!
I can say anything I want.
Including "GAY"
Everybody else says it, and no one complains. It was said on Liz's blog lately and no one said a fucking thing about it.
It's just this blog.
Fuck THAT.
I'll be back.
Stupid.!!!!
katie8753 said...
Well, as far as I know, this is the United States of America.
No, Katie, this is the Internet. Lots of people here who are not from the US.
They are just as entitled to be here as anyone else.
FrankM
katie was that directed to me? i thought we were okay now, let's take this out of the blog. you can contact me at beauders@aol.com.
Katie said:
>>>>"If Casey Anthony can kill her kid and get away with it...I can say dyke and get away with it.
AND...you can say anything you want on this blog and get away with it.
I'm tearing down the curtain of tyranny.
You can say anything fucking thing you want on this blog, and any whinny ass fucker that doesn't like it can suck a light socket!
"<<<<
My Reply:
"you can say anything you want on this blog and get away with it"?
Is that right?
Do tell.
Katie, much as I like you... your nocturnal rants (which you always delete by morning)... are becoming impossible to defend.
You're REALLY pushing the envelope.
I've addressed this issue 3 FUCKING times.
I've already given you WAY more lee-way than I would EVER afford anyone else.
Don't force my hand... you will regret it.
Katie... please contact Beauders, or a counselor, and correct this "Dyke" problem, once and for all.
Does anyone REALLY have to explain to you why this is inappropriate???
Seriously???
Katie says:
You can say anything fucking thing you want on this blog, and any whinny ass fucker that doesn't like it can suck a light socket!
It's a bit like learning to live with your neighbours, Katie. Sure you can say whatever you want to them (within the law, that is) but if you piss them off don't expect to be able to touch them for a cup of sugar when you need it.
What I'm saying is do your thing, but do it with a little respect for others. Respect the otherness of people who don't share your values without cussing them to hell. Throwing your toys out of the pram helps no one.
Or take your ball and go and play somewhere else.
FrankM
If there is one thing there is no room for- it is a loud, obnoxious, self serving idiot shouting and spewing hate in the wee hours of the nite...
lol
so I started taking Xanax and going to bed early...
:)
But if you guys are going to have lesbianism going on in here..
I cant go back to beers and start staying up later...
:)
AHahahaha LMAO!
Circumstance...
You freakin Rock! LOL
Lesbians Be Free!!!
: )
Rotflmfao!
No way! You guys are nuts and i love it!
Not a lesbian, but i have been known to admire the female form.
Wink wink ;)
Oh, i was addressing L/S and St Circ, don't know if that'll be clear when it's posted. :)
Social Media is in its infancy and unfortunately the overwhelming comments left on any given comments section are negative and inflammatory.
Face to face, at least in my personal experience, people aren't like that. Something happens under the cover of anonymity where they say the most vicious things.
Many people are frustrated with the happenings of daily life. But men and women of good will should always rise above.
Tom said:
>>>>"Face to face, at least in my personal experience, people aren't like that. Something happens under the cover of anonymity where they say the most vicious things".<<<<
Very true Tom, very true.
Things do seem to escalate much faster online, than they would in person.
I'm not sure why.
I guess it's easier to forget, there's actually a person on the other end.
I also think a lot is misinterpreted.
When you see someone's face... you pick-up on social cues, such as humor, etc.
For whatever the reason... the online world is just "different", than face-to-face.
George Carlin has a famous skit where he states:
"Did you ever notice... the degree to which someone is an asshole, is directly proportional to how physically close they are". LOL
He explains:
"If you're in the grocery store... and the guy is in the next aisle... the guy is a f#cking asshole".
"If the guy is at the end of your check-out line... he's kinda an asshole".
"If the guy is right next to you... (he whispers under his breath, real soft)... this guy's an asshole".
Leave it to George to make humor from reality.
Remember, in 1995 most people did not know what the internet was.
In a little over 15 years, we can communicate with just about anybody on the planet in real time.
So let's take up that challenge and embrace it. Anybody can be small and mean, making up for failures in their real life.
Let's rise above all dat. Let's exchange information and ideas freely without insult. If you wouldn't say something to someone's face, then don't say it online.
bobby said...>>>>
once again, I apologise to Jim for calling him an idiot. I felt i was sticking up for Lynyrd at the time. I will let my short blog history speak for itself as far as how i treated people.
Lynyrd did say something when i did it. He emailed me and asked me not to engage in that manner.
I must admit that there are many things i would like to say on this subject. I know it it would be just sour grapes though.
I will say that i have a new understanding for St. Circumstance. My blog hero.
out.
Bob. >>>>>
Hi Bob, your blog history does speak for itself...you're very generous and nice to others..like Katie said, one of the nicest bloggers around.
i know just what you mean that you'd like to say more but it would sound like sour grapes.
Anyway, your apology to Jim was fair and generous and you know, it's not like what you said wasn't unprovoked, you were being loyal to your friend....and that's admirable and worthwhile. Don't be too hard on yourself.
George Carlin, God rest his salty soul. He had a way of looking at the worst and stupidest aspects of humanity, not just funny, but humble. You knew he was usually talking about himself as much as anyone. He made it so easy to laugh at your own dumb behavior. I miss getting his take on current events.
Hey Lynyrd, thanks for restoring sanity here. As i've said elsewhere, the illusion of anonymity online can lead people to act a fool sometimes. It's a drag, and i like that this blog has been open and friendly. Good leadership can be a crappy job, but it makes a difference. You are appreciated.
As for what we "can" say; I've always figured you can measure yourself by what you do when you think no one's looking. It's not about what's allowed to say, we are all free all the time. But what do your words say about you? When given the chance to have your say, what have you got? If it's just an opportunity to abuse others and spew venom with impunity, that says something about you, to me. It colors everything else you say, in my eyes. I really value the way the internet allows me to exchange ideas with a wide array of people. In a forum like this, your ideas are your face - not your race, gender, age, looks, or any other accident of genetics. At least, it c a n be that way; and that's what i want from blogging. I am not looking for a place where i can be shitty and get away with it.
Too many places for that as it is, IMHO.
That's my two cents, (and I used "you" in the general sense, not directed at anyone in particular).
One Love, ya'll. :)
Bob.
I'm really not sure where this whole thing de-railed... but, if i did anything to offend you, I apologize.
You know I think the world of you as a blogger, and more importantly, as a person.
Jim called me "Geraldo" and "tabloid", and in-turn, you called him an "idiot" (on my behalf).
In the grand scheme of things... very small potatoes... and as I said already... I know your intentions were good.
I have the undesirable task, of trying to keep everyone happy... while simultaneously... trying to keep everyone from killing each other.
Unfortunately, at times, it gets overwhelming... and I sometimes say the wrong things... to the wrong people.
I'd probably do well, to just keep my mouth shut sometimes... and let nature take it's course.
Even when I do that... someone will get upset, and say I'm "condoning".
Believe me Bob... what you see on-blog is only the half of it.
At any rate, if you're upset with me for any reason... I apologize.
Like I said a couple threads back... it's always been an absolute pleasure having you around.
Lynn said:
>>>>On another nostaligic note, went to the classic csr show in Glendale last weekend and got a chance to see Paul Revere and the Raiders.....<<<<<<
I heard about that and wanted to see them too but was out of town..
Did Mark Lindsey show up?...LOL...I doubt it, he has his own show I hear..
Are you old enough to remember their TV show "Where the Action Is"? I think it was filmed in Malibu every week...
My cousin had a band from San Francisco and played on that show..I have the video, it was filmed in 1965 I think...talk about nostalgic!
Hey Lynn :)
I watched that too :) Great stuff
I am finally heading out there this spring to check all these sites out for myself ( dragging Mrs. Circumstance along for the trip though lol )
I am looking most forward to the Canyon as I have great love for those bands and those times... it is just as much that which attracts me to this period- as the Manson case which ironically crosses over in some ways.
We are staying at the Chateau Marmount lol so I am just a walk away ...
I cant wait!!!
Hey Kimchi-
My cousin had a band from San Francisco and played on that show..I have the video, it was filmed in 1965 I think...talk about nostalgic!
What band did he play in?
Thanks Lynn- I will be hitting everyone up for advice and cool spots next April before I go...
Hi Lynn -
What band did he play in?
Don't laugh - "The Vejtables" - yes, that was their name - they had a good gimmick - a female drummer with a great voice - Jan Errico - she left and joined up with the Mojo Men, who got a hit off Steven Still's "Sit down I think I love you" - my cousin however, was the male harmonica player...LOL..you can see their old videos on you tube..
Thanks Katie!
I keep thinking... is this really true??
Is Charles Manson really gonna have a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame????
Can someone... anyone... please confirm, or dis-prove this for us?
Well... if it's true...
I for one, am kinda happy for Manson. LOL
Heck... after a life of total misery, maybe he'll get a "kick" out of it. LOL
What the hell... throw the guy a bone for once.
Maybe he'll finally make peace with society.
And... I always thought he was a creative songwriter, and have enjoyed some of his earlier music.
Didn't Debra Tate take-up a collection for a Hollywood Star for Sharon... which never happened, or some shit? LOL
Imagine THAT... Manson made it, and Sharon didn't.
I still can't believe this story.
Society is really gonna give the "Bogeyman" a star??
I don't believe it. LOLOL
I'm surprised this news wouldn't make the local television, or CNN.
I gotta know if this is true, or bullshit.
Anyone "got proof"? LOLOL
Kimchi- I will look up that video....I had the record "Sit Down I think I love you" but it was done by Donny Osmond- it was on the Pupply Love album :)
How long was the band together? Did they mostly play in San Francisco?
They sound like they were a fun band...
Lynyrd I don't know if this is true or not, but according to the article, it's gonna take place on August 2.
Hey Lynyrd, chalk me up one more on the wall of fame. HA HA.
The article says "The honored celebrity has always been required to appear in person at the special inductee ceremony where his or her star was being placed, but the board will waive the rules for Manson. "We don't expect Corcoran State Prison to let Charlie attend his ceremony in Hollywood, and we've heard that he wouldn't be interested in coming even if he was allowed."
That's interesting that Charlie wouldn't be interested in attending the ceremony even if he could. You'd think he'd eat that up.
Don't they put their handprints on there????
Yes Debra Tate was trying to get Sharon a star on the walk of fame but didn't succeed.
I didn't really think that Sharon was talented enough to get a star, but it really is a slap in the face the Sharon that Manson could be.
That's right!!
I forgot about our own "hall of fame"!! LOL
Actually, I've got two "updates" to make.
What would I do without you? : )
(probably have more hair)...
AHahahaha
I'm just bustin' ya.
I just checked the Vejtables out- they are great, Kimchi! Thank you. Do they have any CD's?
She keeps me young. LOLOL
I meant Katie keeps me young.
Lynn snuck a comment in there... in-between.
Eh... Lynn keeps me young too. : )
>>>Lynyrd said: What would I do without you? : )
(probably have more hair)...
AHahahaha>>>
Yeah, and it would probably be much less gray. HA HA HA HA!!
Kimchi- their record is a "collectable" 40 to 90 dollars on Amazon :)
Beauders, I sent you an e-mail. Let me know if you don't get it.
Upon further inspection...
I'm formulating serious doubts about the legitimacy of this article.
If you review this... you'll see that the author lists zero legitimate sources.
This information must have come from somewhere?
Where?
Beyond that... he doesn't even provide names, for all the quotes he uses throughout the article.
He just says:
"The rep"... or "she".
Who's "the rep"... who's "she"?
Do these people have names?
They're bold enough to approve a "star"... but not bold enough to have their name quoted in the news release?
Hmm...
Well... if it is true... you heard it here first! LOLOL
Putting in Charles Manson and Hollywood Walk of Fame in Google News did not bring up any documents. Howeve, Hollywood Walk of Fame brings up that Simon Fuller of Americna Idol fame will get a star.
Back to Bug and his appearance in Glendale- hot off the Glendale Press:
http://www.glendalenewspress.com/news/opinion/tn-vsl-0721-intheory,0,1187876.story
Okay for something really interesting (or bizarre is more like it)- check this out...is it Jesus Christ or Charles Manson?
http://www.towleroad.com/2011/07/walmartjesus.html
It is pretty biazarre and it could be bogus. Does anyone know for sure?
Lynn thanks for the link about Bugliosi!
Lynn I can't get the second link you sent to open.
Is this the correct link?
http://www.towleroad.com/2011/07/walmartjesus
Here you go, Katie :)
The Hollywood Chamber of Commerce Walk of Fame recipients for 2011 are Oprah Winfrey, Tina Fey, Neil Patrick Harris, Danny DeVito, Ed O'Neill, John Wells, Simon Fuller, John Langley, Reese Witherspoon, Penelope Cruz, Gwyneth Paltrow, Ed Harris, Sissy Spacek, Donald Sutherland, Kenny Ortega, Ridley Scott, Melissa Etheridge, Rascal Flatts, will I am, Slash, The Gogo's, The Muppets, Laura Dern, Bruce Dern, Diane Ladd ~ per the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce.
People will make up anything, won't they? LOL! I mean really, how anyone could believe that Charles Manson would be eligible for a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame is beyond me!
St. Circumstance said...>>>>
Thanks Lynn- I will be hitting everyone up for advice and cool spots next April before I go...<<<<
You and Mrs. Circumstance will have a great time...and the Chateau...good for you!
Thanks Marliese!!!
Wow. This is almost on the "lie scale" magnitude of one of Casey Anthony's lies.
Almost..... HA HA HA HA.
Love the "sounds like bullshit to me"...at the top of the column.
Hi Katie,
Here is the link to the article:
http://thesop.org/story/20110719/video-holy-mackerel-couple-sees-jesus-on-walmart-receipt.html
Crazy, crazy!
No kidding, huh Katie. i'm losing battery power. gotta go
Marliese said:
>>>>"Love the "sounds like bullshit to me"...at the top of the column".<<<<
It's been downgraded from "column" to "link". LOLOL
Thanks Lynn. That link worked.
That doesn't look like Jesus or Manson to me.
Of course...how would I know what Jesus looks like?
Oh yeah, from the pictures at church. HA HA.
Thanks again Marliese.
Oh well, we can get a little laugh out of it anyway!! LOL.
Craziness and cannot be true - But it is all over google now...
Hi Mary!!! Long time no see!! Where've you been???
This "prestigious author" looks like he would have fit in the back seat of the old Ford just fine. HA HA.
((((((((((LYNN))))))))))
Hi Lynn!!!
Thanks for the Links!
((((((((((MARY))))))))))
Mary said:
>>>>"Craziness and cannot be true - But it is all over google now"<<<<
Is it really???
Well... you saw it here first. LOLOL
Damn... it "IS" all over the place now.
BUT...
It's all very low-grade, unofficial, second-hand, no-name, small-time, crap sites... mostly bottom of the barrel places like blogs. LOLOL
Amazing how fast crapola travels!
Hey...
Maybe if we all "ban together"... and I change the original article a bit... WE can take credit for starting the most bogus rumor ever!!!!
AHahahaha
Nah... I'm just messin' with ya's. LOL
: )
Stars on the walk of fame are not awarded they are purchased. They cost $25K. Absolute Vodka has a star on the walk of fame. Having a star aint what it used to be. Sorta like the heisman trophy. it used to be a big deal. Now I don't even pay attention who wins it since OJ defiled the award. And no, OJ does not mean Orlando Justice.
Hi Katie -
just been swamped with work...a banking regulation was repealed starting tomorrow and my job is to find out how all the banks will adjust - yes, I know...boring...
I have been following the comments and I have to say - the dynamics in this blog are very interesting...shrinks should study all of us - it would be a very interesting case study
I'm sincerely disgusted by what has happened to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
The original "inductees" were fabulous... very deserving... enormously talented people.
Unfortunately, it's gone from a very prestigious award... to a farse.
In recent years, it seems they'll select anyone... just to have enough inductees for the new season.
I say... if you've only got one or two candidates worthy... then just induct one or two.
If you have no one worthy... then skip that year altogether.
They've watered-it-down so much... it's insulting to the many "deserving" inductees.
It cheapens the award... robs the deserving musicians of their glory... and the hall is compromised.
Mary said:
>>>>"the dynamics in this blog are very interesting...shrinks should study all of us - it would be a very interesting case study"<<<<
Gee thanks... I think? LOLOL
Does that make me "head quack"?
hahaha
I did mean it as a compliment - believe it or not
I'm just kidding with ya Mary...
I've always wondered what it must be like for someone... a Non "HS" fanatic... to stumble across one of these places. LOLOL
Pictures of old, rusty, dirty junk... with folks inside "oo-ing" and Awe-ing" over it. LOL
People thanking the administrator for Manson videos...
The avatars alone, are enough to give someone nightmares.
They must think we're out of our freakin' minds! LOL
Mr. P., I did see a commentary on how they awarded the stars on the Walk of Fame. It has indeed turned into a ludicrous affair.
It used to be an honor to be picked to be on the sidewalk outside of Graumann's theater, but in the last 40 years or so, it has just become the higher's bidder's reward.
I've also read (and seen in person) that Hollywood has become a drug-infested world, and the sidewalk outside the world famous Graumann's has just become a haven for drug addicts and prostitutes.
I did read somewhere that the city of Hollywood was trying to clean that up. Don't know if that happened.
Anyone else know?? Californians? Kimchi, Marliese, Lynn?
>>>Mary said: I have been following the comments and I have to say - the dynamics in this blog are very interesting...shrinks should study all of us - it would be a very interesting case study.>>>
HA HA HA!!!
Those shrinks would have a field day with me.
They'd probably say "voila!! We've finally found the missing link!"
LOLOL.
Hoo hoooo.....you crack me up!!!
Lynn said:
>>>>>I just checked the Vejtables out- they are great, Kimchi! Thank you. Do they have any CD's?<<<<
Yes, I went to Amoeba Records in the Haight a few months ago and bought a book "Love is the song we sing" - San Francisco Nuggets 1965-70 and it had all their pix and 3 of their songs on the CDs..
>>>>>Kimchi- their record is a "collectable" 40 to 90 dollars on Amazon :)<<<<
I have an original 45 that's autographed, but I'll never sell it :0
If interested, here's one of their videos:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xtilq_the-vejtables-i-still-love-you_music
Sorry to be off topic LS..but it started out with the Paul Revere, and I think Mark Lindsey used to live at Cielo, so I'm only veering a little :)
>>>Mary said: just been swamped with work...a banking regulation was repealed starting tomorrow and my job is to find out how all the banks will adjust - yes, I know...boring...>>
That's not boring at all. You must have an important job. That can be very interesting!!
Hey Kimchi, I checked out the video link you sent for the Vejtables. Never heard of this group.
Wow..So 60's! They're wearing beatle boots!! LOL.
Is this American Bandstand? That drummer looks like Jane Asher.
Who is the lead singer? None of them seem to know the words. HA HA.
>>>Lynyrd said: I'm sincerely disgusted by what has happened to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.>>
Yes I agree. It used to be an honor to be inducted but now it's more of a joke.
Well, then, there used to be lots of musical talent, and now....????
sigh.
Kimchi said:
>>>>"Sorry to be off topic LS..but it started out with the Paul Revere, and I think Mark Lindsey used to live at Cielo, so I'm only veering a little :)"<<<<
Folks can share recipes for all I care.
As long as folks are having fun, and making friends... I'm good.
Although...
I could do without hearing "Casey Anthony's" name, for a while.
It was a great discussion originally... but, I'm totally on overload at this point.
If someone successfully sues her for a million dollars, or she dies in a car fire... I wanna know.
Short of that... I'm pretty good on the subject. LOL
Thanks for the link Kimchi.
I enjoyed their music... very good.
I have to ask...
Did your cousin have back problems?
He looks really stiff, like he's wearing a brace or something.
Just curious...
That bass player was interesting.
I've never seen a bassist play with his thumb before... and he can dance like James brown while playing! LOL
Best-looking drummer I've ever seen... except for maybe Meg White.
As a rule... it's always best to put as many hot chicks in the band as possible.
Even Charlie knew that! LOL
Hope you feel better Lynn! : )
Oh Jeez...
Katie responded to Poirot with the name "Graumann"?
If that's the ethinicty I think it is... we all better duck! LOLOL
Someone did a really good job, with this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh23A2GptAQ
Mr. Poirot said>>>>Stars on the walk of fame are not awarded they are purchased. They cost $25K. Absolute Vodka has a star on the walk of fame. Having a star aint what it used to be. Sorta like the heisman trophy. it used to be a big deal. Now I don't even pay attention who wins it since OJ defiled the award. And no, OJ does not mean Orlando Justice.<<<<<<
Yes, the stars pay, but it's not like any celebrity with the money can go buy one. There is a nomination/application process and stars are awarded...with consideration for certain criteria...their history of charitable activities for one example. The star can't nominate himself/herself, and not everyone nominated is accepted.
It used to be $15,000, then 25,000 and now is 30,000. Celebrities with walk of fame stars don't have a problem with the fee. It's still an honor and a respected tradition for many in Hollywood, and brings a lot of publicity.
We were in Hollywood for the Rod Stewart and Stevie Nicks concert at the Hollywood Bowl in April, had dinner before the concert in the Hollywood and Highland Center...and right in front on Hollywood Blvd was Rod Stewart’s star! It was fun, we were on the way to see him, and there was his star. I loved it! It's Hollywood!
And then...we walked around the back of the Hollywood and Highland complex to get the shuttle to the bowl but we were too early so decided to walk. Lo and behold, I looked up and there was the Magic Castle...OMG...a Tate LaBianca site and we're on the way to see Rod Stewart. The site of the infamous apt, where Tex says they used to get stoned and watch what was going on next door at the Castle is now a sweeping lawn and parking lot for the Magic Castle. But Hollywood is old...some of the sidewalks and street areas worn...so it's very easy to see where the apts had been. Seeing the Castle and the surrounding area, I thought of it for a moment but no way was I going to let thoughts of evil Tex Watson interfere with Rod Stewart under the stars at the Hollywood Bowl!
Thanks Marliese for explaining the Walk of Fame process. I couldn't remember what exactly was involved, but I knew it was a lot more than slapping money down and "boom" you're in.
Ahhh...Hollywood... it is what it is.
I think of Hollywood back in its heyday, back when the studios had all the stars under contract. Now those were movie stars...back when there were only movie stars. No TV stars or Reality Show stars.
Ahhh...the good ole days. HA HA.
I LOVE Rod Stewart! He can still put on a good show.
Forget the Hollywood Walk of Fame..... Let's induct Charlie into the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame!!
Whoever wrote that article needs to put the crack pipe down and seek help. Manson getting a star for his musical contributions to Hollywood? PUH-LEEEEZE!
Some of Hollywood is cleaned up. I worked in Hollywood about 10 years ago and you had to walk over the homeless to get to work. Still not one of my favorite places.
Have you been to the Magic Castle Marliese? I have gone twice and it is amazing. They have a strict dress code but it is alot of fun. Going back to another discussion, there is a great Columbo episode where Peter Falk is investigating Jack Cassidy- Jach's character performs magic at the Magic Castle.
>>Lurch said: Whoever wrote that article needs to put the crack pipe down and seek help. Manson getting a star for his musical contributions to Hollywood? PUH-LEEEEZE!>>>
Yeah that is pretty far fetched! Maybe that's how he feels about it???? Dunno.
Lynyrd that is a good video. Thanks for posting. I remember when I was there, I stood right by Bela Lugosi's star on the corner.
Marliese I forgot about Tex's apartment by the Magic Castle. Wasn't his wig shop in Hollywood too? And Sebring's hair salon. Was that in Hollywood? Can't remember.
>>>Lynn said: Have you been to the Magic Castle Marliese? I have gone twice and it is amazing.>>>
Lynn, what exactly is the Magic Castle today?
Hi Katie,
Here is a link on it- I wanted to just double check: http://magiccastle.com/
I believe you have to have a membership to go...we were invited as guests, twice. We saw a magic show and we also had a dinner with "Houdini"/seance- magic show on another ocassion that we were there.
Thanks Lynn! That sounds really interesting.
In Tex's book I think he talks about sunbathing at his girlfriend's apartment and watching all the limos pull up at the Magic Castle.
That "Hollywood Star" article, is supposedly being removed, or has been removed, by Yahoo!
If the link no longer works... the article can be seen here:
http://garagepunk.ning.com/forum/topics/charles-manson-to-receive-star?page=1&commentId=833623%3AComment%3A584958&x=1#833623Comment584958
Hi Lurch!
Great to see ya, as always.
Catching up on this blog lol - so many great points to read it takes forever....
Great spot L/S- really !! you have the very best here nowadays
But I also read some very flattering things-
Thanks Bobby :)
You are quite interesting yourself
Off to the Bahamas for the weekend with Mrs C
If I see Casey Ill take pics and send them here - I promise :)
Otherwise...
Be back in a few
Peace as L/S would say lol
>>>Circumstance said: Off to the Bahamas for the weekend with Mrs C
If I see Casey Ill take pics and send them here - I promise :)>>>
Have a good time St!
If you see Casey, just tie a rope around her ankles and throw her off the back of the boat for chum.
Now THAT picture might net you a cool $10 million!! HA HA HA!
Have a GREAT weekend Circumstance!!
You deserve it!!
The Bahamas will never be the same. LOL
Well... they'll have a lot less beer anyway. : )
All the BEST Brother!!!
I know how camera-shy you are... but, if you take any photos... make sure to include yourself, so we know the source. : )
LOLOL
(I'm just bustin' ya, LOL)
Peace Bro...
katie8753 said...>>>>>>
Marliese I forgot about Tex's apartment by the Magic Castle. Wasn't his wig shop in Hollywood too? And Sebring's hair salon. Was that in Hollywood? Can't remember>>>>
Hi Katie, i think the apt next to the Magic Castle was Rosina Kroner's place...Tex's girlfriend.
No idea where his wig shop was...
Jay's salon was on Fairfax near Melrose in West Hollywood...west as in closer to Beverly Hills. :)
Lynn said...>>>>>
Have you been to the Magic Castle Marliese? I have gone twice and it is amazing. They have a strict dress code but it is alot of fun. Going back to another discussion, there is a great Columbo episode where Peter Falk is investigating Jack Cassidy- Jach's character performs magic at the Magic Castle.>>>>
Hi Lynn, no, we've never been there, i'm glad to hear how amazing it is... i'd actually forgotten it was even in that area. The shuttle for the Bowl is behind the Kodak Theater, so we just walked up to Franklin, and all of a sudden, there it was in front of us...all lit up, and very, very beautiful. Really has a lot of presence!
Marliese, Tex says his wig salon was called Love Locs and it was on San Vicente off La Cienega.
Do you know if this is near Hollywood? Just curious.
Well- not sure if thids is coincidence or Circumstance lol
ITS ME SAINT C on my wifes notebook or whateve3r you call a small laptop-
We just checkin in at Atlantis in the Bahamas....
George and Cindy Anthony were immediately in front of us on line...
Have pics- will add more when I get back early next week.....
They were with another couple who I speoke with briefly as one of them was wearing a Bay Hill shirt- as my mther lives in that Orlando community as well- but I did not ackowledge that I knew the Anthony's...
Very surreal experience
The Bahamas are great lol
be back soon
SWorry for the typos im drunk and high lol this thing is too small to see let alone type- but ...
I meant to say i didnt ackowldedge I knew who the Anthonys were...
When I mwentoined My mom lived in Orlando- Cindy turned her back and didnt look my way again...
lol- then again in my bathing suit with not shirt on- I wouldnt look a tme either :)
Gotta go Mrs. C is waiting
Ill send some pics to L/S when i get back
I had to be semi discreet and used a phone -but you can tell its them
OMG!! hahaha
Saint, is that really you?! LOLOL
Is this guy SERIOUS?! LMFAO!!
Either Saint is the funniest bastard in the world... or, someone else is! : )
Either way... I Love it!
Candy anyone? LOLOL
St., is that you? Did you read somewhere that Cindy & George were going to the Bahamas this weekend?
You crack me up!! Better lighten up on the drinking or you won't remember your weekend. HA HA.
Awesome pics of the ranch! :)
Anyone know when they were taken?
I thought my room was a mess, lololol!
Hey WhiskyBeauty!!!
I remember you from WAY BACK on YouTube!!!
I'm sure Katie does too.
Great to see ya!!! LOL
Hi Whiskeybeauty!!! Long time..no see. Good to see you again!!
Hey, we'd love for you to join us on the current thread if you want. I look foward to seeing a lot more of you!!! :)
Hi guys :) I got a message from you AGES back inviting me to join the forum but I kept forgetting.
Loads of interesting stuff on here :)
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