More Roman on Lie Detector - 8/16/69:
At 50 seconds - 2min. 47secs...
"Jay Sebring may have been invloved in a money thing, drug thing, drug delivery... entangled in some peculiar business. Jay owed his dentist $5400 dollars. That's rather amazing to me, as he was known as a prosperous man. This indicates to me, he must have been in serious financial trouble, despite the appearances that he kept".
At 6mins. 18secs - 6mins. 40 secs....
"Voytek Frykoski had been sniffing Cocaine for two years regularly".
18 comments:
Again...I dont understand pollock. HA HA.
Jay Sebring was a dirty little man.
He was into bondage, sado-masochism, handcuffs, etc.
He had a champagne appetite and a "beer wallet".
He was about to launch his Sebring International line, and sunk a lot of money into that, and of course, didn't realize the profits.
He died pretty much in debt.
I wonder what happened to his house at 9860 Easton Drive. Did he own it outright...or was he making payments?
He had no heirs, so what happened to it? I feel sure he didn't leave a will. A man that young doesn't think of such things.
Does anyone know?
I do know that it has been updated and remodeled, and it is now virtually un-photographable.
What a shame.
I'd love to know what happened to that house.
The relationship between Jay and Sharon was a strange one.
They dated and he wanted to marry her, then she dumped him for Roman, then, as the story goes, he flew to England to "give his stamp of approval on Roman", gave his consent and split.
Why he would consent to Roman is beyond me.
Then, Roman & Jay became best of friends, as the story goes.
I find all that quite odd. Rivals at best.
Then, as a final blow, Sharon dies with Jay at her side. He never left.
And Roman didn't find that odd?
Not saying Sharon did anything wrong, but I know that Jay was right there in case she dumped Roman.
I guess Roman didn't have a jealous bone in his body.
In the early evening before the murders, August 8, 1969, right around 5:30 or 6:30 pm, a neighbor of Jay's said she saw him speeding out of his driveway in his porsche and into the lane, and seemed very angry. She said he normally was very friendly and waved, but this time, he had both hands on the wheel and was looking very angry. She said she was surprised.
I wonder what made him so mad???
Hmmmm.....
katie said:
"He had no heirs, so what happened to it? I feel sure he didn't leave a will. A man that young doesn't think of such things."
I think I read recently that the "executive vice president" of Sebring Intl - John Madden was named 'special administrator' of his estate.
As the story goes, Voytek left Cielo Drive, drove to Jay's house, picked up the girl that was there that Jay had spent the night with, took her to his artist friend's shop, I think his name was Witkold K. (or something like that, running on memory now) and asked him for the key to his house on Woodstock Drive.
The artist friend told him he didn't have the key, that it was with his girlfriend.
They then drove to the girlfriend's place, got the key, and went to the Woodstock house, and drank and played records.
He then took the girl home and asked her to come to Cielo Drive later that evening for a party.
She said she'd think about it.
Now, dear friends and fellow countrymen.....
I think this whole story is 100% bullshit.
I think the girl made all this up after the murders, as did ALL of the people who said they were invited to Cielo Drive for a party.
There was NO PARTY.
PERIOD.
Sharon was supposed to visit a friend that evening and begged off.
There was no party planned that night.
A lot of used to bees, sorta bees and wanna bees claimed to be invited to a party that night.
It's just not true.
It didn't happen.
There was no party planned that night at Cielo Drive. Period.
Hi KIMCHI!!! Long time no see!!
>>>I think I read recently that the "executive vice president" of Sebring Intl - John Madden was named 'special administrator' of his estate.>>>
Do you know what happened to the estate?? I know it was sold off to someone else, who is very secretive, from what I've read.
I think the weird thing about the Jay situation was his secretary or whoever she was, and her connection with Rosteau and then him being found dead in a car trunk a few weeks later...now that sounds like a mob hit...
Re: Jay's house, I'll have to see what I can dig up...
This came from IMbd:
In 1965 he rented the former home of Paul Bern (MGM honcho and 2nd husband of Jean Harlow) located at 9860 Easton Drive in Benedict Canyon
Don't know if it's accurate..
>>>Kimchi said: think the weird thing about the Jay situation was his secretary or whoever she was, and her connection with Rosteau and then him being found dead in a car trunk a few weeks later...now that sounds like a mob hit...>>>
Right on, Kimchi. Rosteau was Jay's connection.
I'm not sure who killed him.
Was that why Jay was so mad? That Rosteau was coming under fire?
>>>Re: Jay's house, I'll have to see what I can dig up...>>>
Kimchi, anything you can do, will help. Thanks!!!
Just cuidado. It's haunted!! HA HA.
Now I'm wondering if Jay was the catalyst.
I've always thought it was Voytek.
I'm not getting any closer than I thought.
I know we all hate wiki but -
Sally Forrest:
Forrest and her husband owned the former home of Jean Harlow and Paul Bern on Easton Drive, off Benedict Canyon Drive, Beverly Hills, California, when their tenant Jay Sebring was murdered at the nearby home of Sharon Tate
>>>Kimchi said: This came from IMbd:
In 1965 he rented the former home of Paul Bern (MGM honcho and 2nd husband of Jean Harlow) located at 9860 Easton Drive in Benedict Canyon
Don't know if it's accurate..>>
Right on my friend.
Jay bought the home at 9860 Easton Drive, and he said specifically because it was "haunted" by Paul Bern. Paul Bern married Jean Harlow and they were married for about 3 weeks, and Paul Bern killed himself in that house, and Jay was really interested in that aspect.
He said "I bought a haunted house".
Kimchi, Paul Bern was the first victim in that house. There have been 3 more deaths in that house.
Suicides & accidents.
If you go try to find anything out about that house, be careful.
Maybe you should just stay away.
I have a feeling about that house.
>>>Kimchi said: Forrest and her husband owned the former home of Jean Harlow and Paul Bern on Easton Drive, off Benedict Canyon Drive, Beverly Hills, California, when their tenant Jay Sebring was murdered at the nearby home of Sharon Tate>>>
Kimchi I really think Jay owned that house. I don't think he was renting.
I could be wrong.
Katie said:
>>If you go try to find anything out about that house, be careful.
Maybe you should just stay away<<
Funny you said that...I was just reading a bunch of stuff about that house and they said the same thing!
Probably the best thing is go search the public records on it..County records should have it, right? Be interesting to find out..
>>>Kimchi said:
Katie said:
>>If you go try to find anything out about that house, be careful.
Maybe you should just stay away<<
Funny you said that...I was just reading a bunch of stuff about that house and they said the same thing!
Probably the best thing is go search the public records on it..County records should have it, right? Be interesting to find out..>>
It would be interesting to find out.
But...just be careful.....please!!!!
A little off topic here, but Jerzy Kosinski was married to Mary Hayward Weir, (steel heiress) - she introduced Abigail to Jerzy who intro'd her to Voytek..
Was Bob Weir any relation to her? I understand Bob was adopted..anyway, I've seen pictures of Clem playing with him (guitars) on stage..
Why would Jerzy marry someone 18 years older than he? $$ I guess..
Just weird to me.
Bob Weir's biological father's name is John Parver... a military man.
His biological Mother's name is Phyllis... last name unknown.
I have no idea, if either are still alive.
Both of his adoptive parents passed away in 1972.
Well, so much for that thought!
You know your stuff Lynyrd!
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